2 seven to nine inch auction Synodontis

[24tropheus]

Thanks in advance sorry for the poor photos.
Any info on sexing em appreciated as well as ID
Sorry only one in photos so far.




All the best James

[Silurus]

Looks like a hybrid to me.

[Richard B]

Hmm - photos aren't the best...

There are so many hybrids around in the UK at the moment so this could well be one but it doesn't look like any i've come across so far, (& i've seen LOADS )

A better pic of the whole fish would certainly help us but i can't say one way or the other for definate at the moment

[MatsP]

Most synos in the Cat-eLog hav sexing information, which involves holding the fish upside down and having a look at the "bits".

As to what yours is, I'll leave it for someone more experienced than me.

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Mats

[jippo]

Yep it's petricolaXnigrita hybrid, sorry.

[24tropheus]

I guess I wont bother breeding em then.

Thanks for the replies.

On care (I have em now, so I best give em decent conditions I guess)

Would keeping em in a show tank with Tang featherfins etc be OK at pH about 8.6?

Will they need anything other than a place to hide?
What else would you guys need to see to be more sure?

[sidguppy]

yup, definitely hybrids

I wouldn't say petricola, more like multipunctatus in their ancestry, but not a real species

real easy to take care for and not bad looking at all.
luckily these can only be "bred' by sticking needles in them, so don't worry about your tank being overrun by mutts.

if you want to breed a tanganyikan Syno, try looking at the fins when you buy them.
with few exeptions ALL tanganyikan Syno's have the characteristic black-and-white fins.
with some species this coloration is reverse (petricola and lucipinnis!), but it's there and it should be there even at 0.5" length or so

if the salesperson is talkin like ït'll color up later' and otrher nonsense like that, he's trying to scam you. don't fall for it.

even species wicvh turn drabby brown when mature (the real polli for example) are stunning when young with very obvious black and white finnage.

[24tropheus]

Thanks.
I have been breeding the guy below.
I wondered if you could tell me if it was lucippinis or petricola or a mix.

About 4"

http://s84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/2 ... A60001.flv

[zenyfish]

Video fish are lucipinnis.

[24tropheus]

Thanks again.

[Richard B]

Yep it's petricolaXnigrita hybrid, sorry.

The petricola x nigrita is

Synodontis sp_hybrid(2)

- note the tang caudal - not like this fish, spots are smaller too. As Sid suggests, more likely multi (or grandiops) parentage somewhere.

[24tropheus]

While I have your attention can I have more bites at the cherry/more questions?

Is there a way of calling up photos of just all the Lake Tanganyika Synodontis?

Is there a way of calling up photos of just all the Lake Malawi Synodontis?

Why do breeders make Synodontis hybrids?
I kind of understand it in cichlids. You can do it by accident, you can do it to make new colour mixes that sell well (and are often sold as new wild types) but Synos? All the hybrids look so similar to the real species (but not quite as good?) and it is just as hard work as breeding pure, yes? so why do breeders do it?

[Birger]

Why do breeders make Synodontis hybrids?
I kind of understand it in c*****ds. You can do it by accident, you can do it to make new colour mixes that sell well (and are often sold as new wild types) but Synos? All the hybrids look so similar to the real species (but not quite as good?) and it is just as hard work as breeding pure, yes? so why do breeders do it?

The two links below will give you a little more insight into who and why on hybrids and hormones
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... =8&t=23815
http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... =6&t=25161

Is there a way of calling up photos of just all the Lake Tanganyika Synodontis?

Is there a way of calling up photos of just all the Lake Malawi Synodontis?

You can do a more advanced search here http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/search.php

Birger

[24tropheus]

Thank you!

Wow I did not know there were so many from Lake Tang and so few from Malawi.

I now can see what you guys were talking about re dorsal and caudal fin all wrong on my guys for a pure rift Syno