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My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

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My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby LondonDragon » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:35 am

Hi guys, just thought I would post some photos of my tank. This was setup early last year (as a planted tank, had been a goldfish/tropical, plastic ornament plants tank for 3 years previously) as a planted tank and was looking healthy but then had the place looking like a building site while doing some works in the house and the tank was somewhat neglect. Recently been working on it again with the help of another forum ukaps (if I can't mention just remove the name), and this is whats the tank is looking like at the moment.

Here the tank as it looked when I setup it as a planted tank back in April 2007:
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Setup as of today:

Juwel Rio 125, about 30g
Measurements: 81l x 36d x 50h cm
Filtration: Built-in Filter + Eheim 2224
Lighting: 4x24w T5
CO2: 2kg pressurised
Substrate: Just normal pea size gravel

Flora:

Tank shot (taken last week):
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Diagram:
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1. Rotala sp. ''Nanjenshan'' (Mayaca) ?? not sure about this one
2. Bacopa monnieri
3. Anubias barteri var. nana
4. Limnophila sessiliflora
5. Hemianthus callitrichoides ''Cuba''
6. Ludwigia repens 'Rubin'
7. Blyxa Japonica
8. Vesicularia ferriei (Weeping Moss)
9. Glossostigma elatinoides
10. Cryptocoryne undulata
11. Taxiphyllum sp. (Spiky Moss)
12. Nymphaea lotus (Green version)


These two cannot be seen on photo:
13. Cryptocoryne parva (growing in the middle of the Ludwigia repens)
14. Riccia sp. 'Dwarf' (growing at the top back floating for a test)


Fauna:

2 Bosemani Rainbow
2 Ottos
10 Harlequin Rasbora
1 Clown pl*co
2 Corrydoras seussi
6/7 Guppies/Endler (some fry also)
10 Amano Shrimp
20 Red Cherry Shrimp


Plant fertilization:

Macro: KN03 (2.4 grams 3x week ), KH2P04 (0.6 grams 3x a week) e K2S04 (0.6 grams 3x a week)
Micro: Trace Mix from AE (0.6 grams 3x a week) e MgS04 (4 grams 3x a week)

Both mixes are dosed on alternate days. I also add 5ml of EasyCarbo per day, helps the plants with the extra carbon and also kills off the algea, recommend everyone with a planted tank doses this (or Flourish Excel which is just a little more expensive but as the same effect)


Here some recent photos of the tank, plants and fish.

Tank shot this week (tree branch is there temporarily and added new plant Limnophila aromatica):
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Close-up of the glosso:
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One of my two corries on the glosso:
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Close-up of the Ludwigia:
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The Limnophila aromatica on the left hand side of the branch:
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Close-up of the tank:
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Leaf of Nymphaea lotus:
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Amano shrimp:
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Rainbow:
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Comments and critics always welcomed :) thanks for looking
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby LondonDragon » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:37 am

Photos on the first post were taken two weeks ago, here is an update with new plants added over the last two weeks:

Plants added:
Staurogyne sp.
Nesaea Pedicellata
Rotala Rotundifolia
Limnophila Heterophylia
Eleocharis Acicularis

Removed last week:
Rotala sp. ''Nanjenshan'' (Mayaca)

Think I will stop adding plants now and move on to the 54l that is cycling, this one just needs to grow now and be enjoyed. I am almost happy with this one, not sure what I will do when it gets to a point that there isn't more I can do with it. Don't really want to re-scape it either, might just try to maintain it the way it is and just move the plants around as they grow.

Full tank shot:
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Top of the tank:
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Bottom half:
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Spiky Moss growing very well and algae free:
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Glosso, also algae free:
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One of my lovely corries:
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One of my Rainbows:
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Also I have noticed over the last week that the plants are all pearling like never before, might have been due to the increase on CO2 when I introduced the L. Aromatica.

Comments and critics always welcomed :)
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby andywoolloo » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:58 am

incredible, simply amazing. Nice job! :thumbsup: The rasboras are beautiful, as are all your fish and shrimp.
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby LondonDragon » Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:00 am

andywoolloo wrote:incredible, simply amazing. Nice job! :thumbsup: The rasboras are beautiful, as are all your fish and shrimp.

Thanks andy :)
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby andywoolloo » Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:04 am

your welcome. how do you clean the substrate?
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby racoll » Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:11 am

Awesome tank sir.

I'm setting up a "hi-tech" planted tank at the moment, and after a few problems early on, it seems to be turning out okay.

I shall have to get some pics up soon.....

How important do you think the dry fertilisers are?
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby LondonDragon » Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:26 am

andywoolloo wrote:your welcome. how do you clean the substrate?

Do you need to clean the substrate?? just joking, just place the symphon on top of the glosso and anything in it with the water flow gets dragged out, if there isn't much overfeeding it is not a problem anyway, let nature take its course as long as the filtration is good and flow around the tank.

racoll wrote:Awesome tank sir.
I'm setting up a "hi-tech" planted tank at the moment, and after a few problems early on, it seems to be turning out okay.
I shall have to get some pics up soon.....
How important do you think the dry fertilisers are?

Many thanks, dry ferts are just easier for me to dose and also work out much cheaper than any all in one liquid equivalent. Dosing the EasyCarbo also helps combat algea issues.
I have read from a few guys that when they changed from liquid (TPN+) to dry ferts they had much better success and I can vouch for that!
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby DutchFry » Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:52 am

very nice tank and beautiful pictures! :thumbsup:
Greetings, Tim
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby Carp37 » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:50 pm

Lovely-looking tank... I usually pretty much ignore planted tank pictures because it's usually impossible to spot the fish in them, but in yours I can see much of the tank stock in the full-tank pictures, so you've got the best of both worlds- fish you can see in an attractive environment.
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby LondonDragon » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:01 pm

Thanks guys :) Carp I do like my fish also not just the plants, so I try a scape that allows the fish to swim in front of it so that they are always visible, the corries love the glosso bed too ;)
I do have a clown pl*co in there somewhere, that one is always hard to find no matter how many or little plants I have had in the tank.
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby Carp37 » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:19 pm

LondonDragon wrote:I do have a clown pl*co in there somewhere, that one is always hard to find no matter how many or little plants I have had in the tank.


I've only got plastic plants, bogwood and slate in my cory tank, but I almost never see my 2 clown plecs either! One will poke his nose out from under the bogwood when there's frozen bloodworm about but that's about it...
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby LondonDragon » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:22 pm

Carp37 wrote:I've only got plastic plants, bogwood and slate in my cory tank, but I almost never see my 2 clown plecs either! One will poke his nose out from under the bogwood when there's frozen bloodworm about but that's about it...

How long do they live? I have had mine from before the tank was planted, must have it for over 4 years! was the first fish I purchased.
Doesn't grow much either, think it always stayed the same size.
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby Carp37 » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:42 pm

LondonDragon wrote:How long do they live? I have had mine from before the tank was planted, must have it for over 4 years! was the first fish I purchased.
Doesn't grow much either, think it always stayed the same size.


Not sure- I'm guessing at 7-10 years as a small plec. I've only had mine 7-8 months, and posted some time ago as mine weren't growing noticeably (except for getting hugely fatter) compared with bristlenose which grow much more quickly. Mats suggested they grow really slowly so this seems like the norm.
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby LondonDragon » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:45 pm

Carp37 wrote:Not sure- I'm guessing at 7-10 years as a small plec. I've only had mine 7-8 months, and posted some time ago as mine weren't growing noticeably (except for getting hugely fatter) compared with bristlenose which grow much more quickly. Mats suggested they grow really slowly so this seems like the norm.

Thanks for that, mine is about half the size of one of my corries, just weird it always stayed around the same size as when I brought it. Its seems to be happy and been in the tank all this time so I guess I don't have to worry about it ;)
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby Carp37 » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:00 pm

If you've had it about 4 years it's not doing too badly. Whilst I never catch them at it, mine eat huge quantities of bogwood, and are very deep-bodied compared with other plecos.
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby slakey » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:48 pm

:O How have you got no algae? My wood pieces are totally covered!!!
Also my plants are aswell :(

But my one of Anubias Nana's buds has opened and there's like a little type of pollen thing there now :O
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby Martin S » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:08 pm

Amazing looking tank - very impressive!
As stated already, it's great that you have mixed the fish and plants so you still get to see the fish!
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby LondonDragon » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:11 pm

slakey wrote::O How have you got no algae? My wood pieces are totally covered!!!
Also my plants are aswell :(
But my one of Anubias Nana's buds has opened and there's like a little type of pollen thing there now :O

If you using the standard Juwel tank, then you won't be able to keep most of the plants I do, I have upgraded the filter, the lights, the heater, powerhead for circulation, pressurised CO2 and dry ferts ;) basically I just have the original glass lol which makes buying a Juwel for planted tanks pretty useless ;) unless you want a low-tech tank.
If you need some pointers or help just let me know I will be glad to assist. We are all here to learn from one another, even though I am just a noob myself.

Martin S wrote:Amazing looking tank - very impressive!
As stated already, it's great that you have mixed the fish and plants so you still get to see the fish!
Martin

Many thanks Martin :)
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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby MatsP » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:22 pm

Whilst I agree with LondonDragon that it's probably not possible to keep that level of plants in a standard "off-the-peg" tank, it's quite possible to keep a reasonably well-planted, non-CO2, low-tech tank, by some careful choice of plants.

For example, the Limnophila, and Ludwigia will grow quite well in an ordinary tank with decent lighting [and whilst the stock Rio125 lights are not the best ever, there are 2 x 18w flourescent tubes in there, which is pretty OK].

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Re: My First Planted Tank - Juwel Rio 125

Postby racoll » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:11 pm

How have you got no algae? My wood pieces are totally covered!!!
Also my plants are aswell


When plants can achieve unlimited growth, they will totally out-compete and retard algal growth. To achieve unlimited growth, you need to remove all the limiting factors to plant growth. These include light, nutrients and most importantly C02 (and require all the upgrades LondonDragon has made).

When C02 is absent, algae has the upper hand. However there are a few tricks you can pull to achieve a balance.

Algae thrive on light and nutrients (in the absence of plants and C02), so reducing light (fewer bulbs, shorter photoperiod of <10h, floating plants, tannin stain), keeping on top of water changes, and adding algae eating fish, you can usually stay in control.

But remember, light, light, light is your problem.........
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