hybridization b/w elegans group species

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How about in the captivity:

C. adolfoi x C. duplicareus ?

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catfish_cz wrote:Crossbreeding of Corydoras

in the nature:

C. leopardus x C. ambiacus


in the captivity:

C. adolfoi x C. caudimaculatus
C. adolfoi x C. gossei
C. adolfoi x C. melini
C. araguaiaensis x C. axelrodi
C. arcuatus x C. metae
C. axelrodi x C. adolfoi
C. axelrodi x C. metae
C. burgessi x C. adolfoi
C. burgessi x C. metae
C. burgessi x C. axelrodi
C. davidsandsi x C. adolfoi
C. davidsandsi x C. burgessi
C. davidsandsi x C. panda
C. oiapoquensis x C. panda
C. paleatus (albín) x C. melanotaenia
C. panda x C. caudimaculatus
C. sterbai x C. haraldschultzi

And maybe this (?):

C. axelrodi - C. loxozonus - C. melini
C. trilineatus x C. metae


It is better to keep them separately.
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C. adolfoi x C. caudimaculatus XXX
C. adolfoi x C. gossei XXX
C. adolfoi x C. melini XXX
C. araguaiaensis x C. axelrodi XXX
C. arcuatus x C. metae
C. axelrodi x C. adolfoi XXX
C. axelrodi x C. metae
C. burgessi x C. adolfoi
C. burgessi x C. metae XXX
C. burgessi x C. axelrodi XXX
C. davidsandsi x C. adolfoi
C. davidsandsi x C. burgessi
C. davidsandsi x C. panda XXX
C. oiapoquensis x C. panda XXX
C. paleatus (albín) x C. melanotaenia XXX
C. panda x C. caudimaculatus XXX
C. sterbai x C. haraldschultzi
Some of the listed mating species cannot possibly be natural partners in the wild, because they just do not live in the same areas, the only way these matches can be achieved is with mans assistance or even insistence. I hear of occasional crosses happening where people have groups of single species specimens, but most of the records of so called natural hybridising seem to emanate from the Czech Republic. At this moment in time I have four tanks each contain groups (5 -8 specimens) of at least 5 species. most have been together for at least 18 months and I have yet to have any hybridising take place, several of these groups spawn on a regular basis and produce pure species. I would therefore challenge the term Natural hybrids". I am sure if I kept 6 males of one species and 4 females of another and put them through a conditioning regime they would breed but that could not under any circumstances be considered as a natural mating.

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Post by MatsP »

Ian,

Isn't that why the long list of species is headlined "In captivity"?

I agree with your statement, I just think that the original poster also agrees with it, and I sort of think that your post is concerning something we all agree with, although the wording is such that you seem to disagree with something. Sorry, don't mean to upset anyone, just feel a bit like someone (Ian or me?) missed something...

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Post by catfish_cz »

To Coryman: I wrote that in the nature is it: C. leopardus x C. ambiacus. Other Corydoras on my list are crossbreeded in aquarium.

To corydorus: I have never heard about crossbreeding of C.adolfoi x C.duplicareus.

PS: Sorry, I am not interested in Corydoras. I try to breed Megalechis, Heteropneustes, Loricariidae, etc.

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Post by Coryman »

my apologies, I jumped in a little too quickly on the list of hybrid paring without reading the "In Captivity" title and also for perpetuating the drift away from the original topic by bedwetter. However my views on hybridising remain the same.

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Even though this is an old thread, I must say thank you. I have been driving myself crazy trying to prevent hybridization in my cory collection. Most informative and wondering if any new ones added to the list ?
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I currently have in one tank...

6 C. Trilineatus (1 year + in tank)
4 C. Paleatus (5 months in tank)
1 CW023 (1 year in tank)
1 CW041 (4 months in tank)

The C. Trilineatus are only interested in each other. I did have some C. Aeneus that would follow the C. Trilineatus and eat their eggs. They were evicted to another tank shortly after that. The C. Trilineatus do not eat their own eggs, and I don't believe they eat anyone elses eggs. These eggs are laid in current on plants, rarely on glass. She targets java moss, hair algae, and crypts.

The C. Paleatus are exceptionally longing for procreation and the males will "mount" both sexes of C. Trilineatus and even the C. Hasbrosus. I am not sure if the C. Paleatus have "mounted" the CWs. The "mounting" does not last longer than a second, the male must realize that he chose the wrong fish. The C. Paleatus will eat their own eggs. This female places her eggs on glass only, usually behind the heater, behind plants, behind tiles, and if in the open usually up high. I have been 100% accurate when guessing what kind of cory eggs I am pulling.

The CW023 plays with the C. Trilineatus and gets excited with them. I don't believe he has mated.

The CW041 is young yet and minds his own business.

I don't have the longevity of experience, but I do sit and observe the fish for HOURS upon HOURS.
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Post by Eggheadfish »

Hi,
I know this is an old thread, but I can confirm that metae can cross breed and produce fry with trilineatus.
I had a group of 7 trils and 2 metae in the same tank, never bothered with each other, and the trilineatus bred on occasion.
I added 3 more metae (finally found some!), and they are all females. A week later, I saw them actively spawning together - male tril and one of the new metae females. I collected the eggs and hatched them out (ONLY to confirm it could be done, don't see any information on it anywhere besides this thread - specimens will never leave my tank or be bred further, and are housed separately from the parent groups). I currently have 12 fry that are three days old. Curious to see what kind of pattern develops.
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Post by Narwhal72 »

I want to add another one to the list.

Corydoras metae x Corydoras weitzmani can successfully hybridize. I have a nice little Weitzmetae I just found in a holding tank.

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Local fish shop had a customer report a

C. sterbai x C. paleatus hybrid

Probably very rare, but just thought Id post it here.
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Post by bekateen »

Another possible hybrid. This photo, from a photographer's facebook page, shows what appears to be a trilineatus x similis hybrid. The fish is attributed to a LFS.

https://m.facebook.com/?_rdr#!/RonnyM88 ... 494304286/
trilineatusXsimilis-hybrid(1).jpg
Another Facebook member showed an almost identical fish's photo, and he stated definitively that his fish was a trilineatus x similis hybrid.

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1 ... ent_follow
trilineatusXsimilis-hybrid(2).jpg
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