Whiptail Catfish ID

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Darren Balch
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Whiptail Catfish ID

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Can someone please confirm my ID, I believe this to be Hemiloricaria Parva.
Whiptail ID.jpg
I have 2 of these and both look identical.
Karsten S.
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Re: Whiptail Catfish ID

Post by Karsten S. »

Hi,

do you also have a pic of a lateral view ?!
However, I'm very sure that this is not H. parva, the fins are way too short.
Why do you think it's H. parva ?

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Re: Whiptail Catfish ID

Post by sunfish »

Hi,

I'm not entirely sure with this picture, but I'd say this is a female .
Cheers,
Tina
Darren Balch
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Re: Whiptail Catfish ID

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I guess the only reason i was thinking H.parva as it was the only thing that looked close but i cant recall seeing H.beni when i was searching. I assume the reason for thinking female is due to the overall shape. I got the last 2 in the shop to see if they would breed but they both seem the same. Is there any real giveaways to point me in the direction of a male?

Also if anyone is a keeper or has experience of these. Is it usual for this species to be very placid. If im cleaning the tank or moving things round they dont move out the way and i constantly have to check that they arent stuck under what i have moved. They seem to be feeding ok and under low light conditions seem more active which is no suprise.

Thanks

Darren
Karsten S.
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Re: Whiptail Catfish ID

Post by Karsten S. »

Hi,

I've attached a pic of a male H. beni, have a look on the pectoral fins (also a few on the head), the odontodes are a clear sign for males. Also on the cheeks you can see some. Females don't have those odontodes.
Within Hemiloricaria there are some differences but the males always have pronounced odontodes whereas females don't.

I think H. beni is a good call, what is the size of your whiptails ?

Cheers,
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male H. beni
male H. beni
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Re: Whiptail Catfish ID

Post by sunfish »

Yes, female due to the body shape and the absence of Odontodes. At this size the males are easy to identify.

H. beni are small, peaceful fish that are easy to keep and not at all timid. They are not that rare, so it should be possible for you to get some more if this is indeed H. beni.
Cheers,
Tina
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Re: Whiptail Catfish ID

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I don't know what species this is but I would say that it is a male. Notice the "hairs" on the pectoral fins. Also notice that this fish does have a "beard" which would definitely make it a male.
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Re: Whiptail Catfish ID

Post by sunfish »

Thriftyfisher wrote:I don't know what species this is but I would say that it is a male. Notice the "hairs" on the pectoral fins. Also notice that this fish does have a "beard" which would definitely make it a male.
If you're talking about the second picture then yes, this is a male (as it says in the text and in the caption). This picture was posted to show what a male H. beni looks like. It sometimes helps to read the text...
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Tina
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Re: Whiptail Catfish ID

Post by Thriftyfisher »

Sunfish,

You are, of course, correct. I mixed and matched what I was looking at and reading, I hate when I do that and I agree with you that the first picture is of a female.
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