The "Jools' new fishroom post"
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any new pictures on the fish room? I am thinking of painting my fish room with Exterior paint... as it is designed to weather seal the outside of a house and should work great to seal the inside. You can buy really expensive epoxy paints for very moist environments too. Just talk to your local paint supply house.
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Hi guys,
im in the process of setting up my fish room and i was wondering if anyone has ever considered using a dehumidifier to stop dampness? iv read through this thread and no-one seems to mention it?
cheers,
andrew
im in the process of setting up my fish room and i was wondering if anyone has ever considered using a dehumidifier to stop dampness? iv read through this thread and no-one seems to mention it?
cheers,
andrew
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Hi everybody.
I've just discovered this topic and I thought I could give you some "tested for you" ideas. I had the same questionning as Jools 3 years ago, when we built our house. From the beginning it was planned to have a fish-room in the underground. I made a serie of pictures during the building and the installation of the tanks. Actually, it runs from February 2006, with a total of 4 tanks (160 / 300 / 375 / 1600 litres) and several growing, testing, planted, and so on smaller tanks...
If you agree, I could place a few pictures of "my" tricks to avoid damping, smellings and such "usual" problems, linked to a fish-room installation.
Anyway, nice topic...
I've just discovered this topic and I thought I could give you some "tested for you" ideas. I had the same questionning as Jools 3 years ago, when we built our house. From the beginning it was planned to have a fish-room in the underground. I made a serie of pictures during the building and the installation of the tanks. Actually, it runs from February 2006, with a total of 4 tanks (160 / 300 / 375 / 1600 litres) and several growing, testing, planted, and so on smaller tanks...
If you agree, I could place a few pictures of "my" tricks to avoid damping, smellings and such "usual" problems, linked to a fish-room installation.
Anyway, nice topic...
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Eltofi:
I would love to see your pictures and your work to head off the "usual" problems. I have a room that I hope will eventually become a fish room. Would like to see your approach.
"A picture is worth a thousand words" - Napoleon
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I would love to see your pictures and your work to head off the "usual" problems. I have a room that I hope will eventually become a fish room. Would like to see your approach.
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Hello all,
I've just lost the whole text I had been writing for the last 20 minutes just because I forgot to save it... I'm mad... never mind, here is a shorter version...
Being synthetic :
- fishroom of 25 m2
- 3 air vents : 2 are simply "holes" in the upper part of the right and of the left walls, the third is a window
- 5 tanks : 120 l. Hospital, 160 l Chaetostoma sp L402, 300 l Hypancistrus sp L66, 375 l Hemiancistrus sp L128, 1600 l "Xingu suckermouths & Retroculus"
- 2 nurseries (54 l) : actually Hypancistrus L66 + Pseudacanthicus sp L320 growing
- all tanks open with low lighting
- 1 water evacuation in the middle of the room, on the floor
- the room is not heated, but is in the underground of the house
Positives points :
- never had "damping" or smells, or any problem linked to humidity although the 12 liters a day of evaporation (for the big tank only)
- I can have different temperatures in every tank
Negatives points :
- in winter, the natural venting increases sensibily the electricity note (up to € 1.30 per day), due to heating particularly.
Project :
- a rain water collector, directly from the roof, through a PVC drain pipe which comes in the fishroom by one of the air vent. Problem : how to ensure the water quality ?
I've just lost the whole text I had been writing for the last 20 minutes just because I forgot to save it... I'm mad... never mind, here is a shorter version...
Being synthetic :
- fishroom of 25 m2
- 3 air vents : 2 are simply "holes" in the upper part of the right and of the left walls, the third is a window
- 5 tanks : 120 l. Hospital, 160 l Chaetostoma sp L402, 300 l Hypancistrus sp L66, 375 l Hemiancistrus sp L128, 1600 l "Xingu suckermouths & Retroculus"
- 2 nurseries (54 l) : actually Hypancistrus L66 + Pseudacanthicus sp L320 growing
- all tanks open with low lighting
- 1 water evacuation in the middle of the room, on the floor
- the room is not heated, but is in the underground of the house
Positives points :
- never had "damping" or smells, or any problem linked to humidity although the 12 liters a day of evaporation (for the big tank only)
- I can have different temperatures in every tank
Negatives points :
- in winter, the natural venting increases sensibily the electricity note (up to € 1.30 per day), due to heating particularly.
Project :
- a rain water collector, directly from the roof, through a PVC drain pipe which comes in the fishroom by one of the air vent. Problem : how to ensure the water quality ?
the Potamotrygon adventure has begun...
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here you can see the waste water evacuation and the "nursery shelf", with above it the second air vent. Depending on the wind ouside, the air flow is from left to right or the opposite.
Bonus (for me and whom may be interessted) : juveniles of L320 and L66 in the same nursery
Bonus (for me and whom may be interessted) : juveniles of L320 and L66 in the same nursery
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what size is that tank on the last pic in the post right before the one above this one? In gallons?
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Hi Andywoolloo,
the tank is a 1600 liters, so around 420 US gallons and 350 UK gallons. It's a 320x70x70 cm (around 126x28x28 inches).
I thought this was a huge tank... till I discover a member of the Lausanne Club (Switzerland) who drives a 4000 liters (1056 US gallons : built in concrete and glass) with Osphronemus goramy...
you can always find someone more crazy than you are
the tank is a 1600 liters, so around 420 US gallons and 350 UK gallons. It's a 320x70x70 cm (around 126x28x28 inches).
I thought this was a huge tank... till I discover a member of the Lausanne Club (Switzerland) who drives a 4000 liters (1056 US gallons : built in concrete and glass) with Osphronemus goramy...
you can always find someone more crazy than you are
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wow.. incredible..u are so lucky.126x28x28 420 us gals
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It's been a long time since I last posted, so here is an update on progress.
Here I am draining one of the larger tanks so that I can knock down the wall behind it.
Temporary tank in the new hall which is being filled with water from the old tank
Draining, draining, draining...
Tank now moved and wall removed.
Standing in new living room looking into fishroom through cut out for the big display tank.
2 months to go!
Jools
Here I am draining one of the larger tanks so that I can knock down the wall behind it.
Temporary tank in the new hall which is being filled with water from the old tank
Draining, draining, draining...
Tank now moved and wall removed.
Standing in new living room looking into fishroom through cut out for the big display tank.
2 months to go!
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I looked at that and it seemed a good idea although I may go for bathroom paint - only because it is available in blue!WhitePine wrote:any new pictures on the fish room? I am thinking of painting my fish room with Exterior paint... as it is designed to weather seal the outside of a house and should work great to seal the inside.
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nice job!
i have a question. i see all of your tanks are open. this means more evaporation ofcourse, but i was wondering if you ever had pl*cs jumping out of the tanks?
i would like to have a tank that's open, but my L021 jumps for air sometimes and i hear it bumping it's head against the lights or cover. is open tank a big risk with commons?
i have a question. i see all of your tanks are open. this means more evaporation ofcourse, but i was wondering if you ever had pl*cs jumping out of the tanks?
i would like to have a tank that's open, but my L021 jumps for air sometimes and i hear it bumping it's head against the lights or cover. is open tank a big risk with commons?
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I have drip trays on all tanks, they are just not in the photos as I have taken them off when working on the tanks. For larger tanks I use PVC sheets from DIY stores which are cheap, work really well and can be cut to size (e.g. 4"x2.5").
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thanks for the quick reply. after reading your post three times, i still don't understand what you mean exactly, my english is lousy
do you mean drip trays like you see on beertaps? so the air can go through and evaporated water can get back in the tank?
do you mean drip trays like you see on beertaps? so the air can go through and evaporated water can get back in the tank?
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I have seen Jools "drip trays" (which is essentially a cover), and it's a something like this - it's a small profile corrugated plastic sheet, about 20-30 mm between peaks ("wavelength") and about 10-15 mm height ("amplitude").
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thanks, i understand now (finally), nice solution, will keep this in mind for the future.
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Jools wrote:I looked at that and it seemed a good idea although I may go for bathroom paint - only because it is available in blue!WhitePine wrote:any new pictures on the fish room? I am thinking of painting my fish room with Exterior paint... as it is designed to weather seal the outside of a house and should work great to seal the inside.
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You can get most outdoor paints mixed to any color you like. Ask your paint dealer.
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Re: The "Jools' new fishroom post"
looks good!
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Sorry, yes, what I meant was it is considerably more expensive even for the fishroom only the difference is £80/$160. Mind you I just shelled out a small fortune for industrial grade waterproof flooring.WhitePine wrote:You can get most outdoor paints mixed to any color you like. Ask your paint dealer.
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The new half of the room has been painted now and I'm moving tanks in today (prior to fitting racking, display tanks etc).
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Certainly looks better than my fish-room.
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Well, it's not got much in it yet, but plans are afoot! Hopefully get some racking installed at the end of May. The display tank will be July I think - currently this is going to be a 2m tank.
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Some updated pics.
1) Sink (shower head tap for getting into mucky filter boxes), storage, freezer and ipod player for the other end of the room. Walls not painted yet, tiles still to go up.
2) Fishroom with existing tanks in it. The plan is to move them into racking and then the display tank goes in where they are on the left wall as you look at it.
Just got the quote for the racking so may well be taking the DIY route!
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1) Sink (shower head tap for getting into mucky filter boxes), storage, freezer and ipod player for the other end of the room. Walls not painted yet, tiles still to go up.
2) Fishroom with existing tanks in it. The plan is to move them into racking and then the display tank goes in where they are on the left wall as you look at it.
Just got the quote for the racking so may well be taking the DIY route!
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Looking seriously cool so far. Can I ask.. what are the dimensions of the tanks you are using at present.. and to which tanks will you be transferring the fish you relocate during the move?
Oh.. and can I visit when you get finished?
Oh.. and can I visit when you get finished?
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any updates?
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There are a few tanks, most of which are listed in "my aquaria" with their dimensions there. The big ones you see in the photo directly above are 48l x 18h x 30d.Moosipher wrote:Looking seriously cool so far. Can I ask.. what are the dimensions of the tanks you are using at present.. and to which tanks will you be transferring the fish you relocate during the move?
Oh.. and can I visit when you get finished?
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andywoolloo wrote:any updates?
I have been busy in the fishroom, but busy in the real world too, so I'm afraid updates have been missing. I will try and update this week.
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A long overdue update...
Looking down the room, discus tank in the foreground left, at the back left is the tank with the spawning Pseudohemiodon, but it shows the racking nicely.
Looking back to the position the first pic was taken from, he we see sink, worktop and cupboards.
You can see the display tank cutout in the wall (new living room on the other side), this will be operational for Xmas (I hope!).
On Wednesday I plan to put in the surface mounted drainage and more tanks into the racking, I am just waiting for the black floor paint to dry on them.
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Looking down the room, discus tank in the foreground left, at the back left is the tank with the spawning Pseudohemiodon, but it shows the racking nicely.
Looking back to the position the first pic was taken from, he we see sink, worktop and cupboards.
You can see the display tank cutout in the wall (new living room on the other side), this will be operational for Xmas (I hope!).
On Wednesday I plan to put in the surface mounted drainage and more tanks into the racking, I am just waiting for the black floor paint to dry on them.
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Very nice. It's beginning to look like a small shop
I like the wall colouration as well. Amazing what "some" extra space does to a fish room.
I like the wall colouration as well. Amazing what "some" extra space does to a fish room.
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Hey,
do you have any special ventilation system in your fishroom Jools?
On the begining of spring I'm starting to do my own fish room but I really have serious problems with fungus on walls now and with more tanks it will probably get even worser
Btw everything looks great!
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do you have any special ventilation system in your fishroom Jools?
On the begining of spring I'm starting to do my own fish room but I really have serious problems with fungus on walls now and with more tanks it will probably get even worser
Btw everything looks great!
Regards.
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We can climb so high
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We were born, born to be wild
We can climb so high
I never wanna die
Born to be wild
Born to be wild
Steppenwolf, Born to Be Wild