Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

[Marc van Arc]

Walter,
The main problem is that I haven't got a clue what T. anduzei should look like.....
Surely your specimen are paler than the ones in the CateLog, but - as you already indicated - they might be T. taeniatus after all. Have you got any idea how old your specimen are?
Perhaps pattern fades with age.

Btw: there is nothing wrong with your picture; imo it's the nicest of the three.

[Walter, posts: 239]

Hi Marc,
no - no idea.
I think, they are adult, I got them adult, they have been imported adult...
This species shows a hudge distribution, maybe there are different types of coloration in specimen of different origin... (and maybe there is more than one or two species of this genus - but not described yet).

Anyway, I guess, the "cf." is a good solution to name them

[daniel60, posts: 109]

I think they look like the ones I call T. taeniatus:

[Marc van Arc]

No-one else? If so, the number of Auchenipterid fans is far less than I had expected....

[Marc van Arc]

The main problem is that I haven't got a clue what T. anduzei should look like.....

Walter, I saw pictures of T. anduzei and it's definitely NOT your fish. Check this link http://www.auburn.edu/academic/science_ ... ndex1.html

click Siluriformes, then Auchenipteridae and scroll down.

[grokefish, posts: 1531]

Hi everyone sorry I'm late...
Trachycorystes Trachycorystes
Liosmodoras Morrowi
Tatia perugiae
Tatia Galaxius
and a fish I bought only labeled as Zamora cat, which I havn't seen for so long I can't remember which tank he is in.
CFC You can have the Trachy for nothing if you come and pick him up, I'm just outside of swansea in banjo country so bring your bow or I can drop him off next time I'm in London which part are you in?
He is really peacefull as I have said in other posts but I'm afraid he's gotta go to make way for my Xingu tank, sorry guys but I'm being slowly converted to Lorriicaridae.

[Marc van Arc]

and a fish I bought only labeled as Zamora cat

That's Auchenipterichthys coracoideus

sorry guys but I'm being slowly converted to Lorriicaridae.

You're joking, aren't you

[grokefish, posts: 1531]

Here Marc I've got a video of my false jaguars doing something strange, they are not quite fighting I've seen them do that, do you think I could e-mail it to you for your opinion. It's a bit to big for me to post on putfile and my website is still not up and running,(too busy working). My email is vandart@hotmail.co.uk, if you can E-mail me I'll send it to you, it's 71 MB.

[grokefish, posts: 1531]

Right here it is on U tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5uQiO7I-0U
What do you think I have more this went on for appx 2 hrs

[CFC, posts: 123]

Hi everyone sorry I'm late...
Trachycorystes Trachycorystes
Liosmodoras Morrowi
Tatia perugiae
Tatia Galaxius
and a fish I bought only labeled as Zamora cat, which I havn't seen for so long I can't remember which tank he is in.
CFC You can have the Trachy for nothing if you come and pick him up, I'm just outside of swansea in banjo country so bring your bow or I can drop him off next time I'm in London which part are you in?
He is really peacefull as I have said in other posts but I'm afraid he's gotta go to make way for my Xingu tank, sorry guys but I'm being slowly converted to Lorriicaridae.

WOW that is a very kind offer, you should have a PM in your inbox Hopefully i'll see you soon.


Those jaguars were really going at it, it looks like they are establishing a pecking order as one is doing most of the pushing while the other is staying still and rigid.

[Marc van Arc]

That's a very interesting video. It strikes me that both are fighting (for that's what it is) because as far as I can see they're both females. Perhaps they're fighting over a hiding spot or as CFC has already noted, a "who's in charge" quarrel.
I'll certainly email you for the complete "works".
Don't tell me these two have to go too.... nice Metynnis btw; one of my all time favourite Characins.

Btw: one of the main intentions of this thread was to see who has which Auchenipterid, so we could more easily find eachother. The apparent deal between Grokefish and CFC has shown it may even be used for more

[Richard B, posts: 6307]

Marc - aarrgghh - not another hybid!!!

There are so many syno hybrids & although some look fantastic i personally would want true species, however, each to their own.

L.Oncinus seems a lot more scarce nowadays than in the past in the uk. When i spoke to the chap who had bred the s.granulosus earlier this year he did say that if specimens were available he wanted to have a go at breeding these to supply the demand that seems to be prevalent at the moment. I have offered to loan him my female but he has no existing stock & being part of a commercial breeder i would have thought they would have access to stocks if they were available.

[grokefish, posts: 1531]

A breeding program, yes pool our resources, but first to find some fish!

[CFC, posts: 123]

Liosomadoras onicus has indeed gotten very rare over recent years. As a newbie fishkeeper many years ago they were one of the first fish i fell in love with on sight, but as we only had a small community tank and my wife wanted to keep small pretty fish i was unable to keep one.
Now the fish keeping madness has fully set in and i have multiple tanks of large and small proportions i havent seen one for sale for years, only the false jaguars and those only from time to time.

[pturley, posts: 833]

Marc, I haven't chimed in as all the species I keep are currently listed...

Trachy. galeatus from Peru
Trachy. sp. Otorongo (at least I did a month or so ago, the last time I actually saw the fish!)
Tatia galaxias (true galaxias, from locale.) Still the same fish from the CatE-Log shots in 1998, imported in 1993. Unfortunately, I am down to a lone male.
Tatia intermedia
Centromochlus perugea
Liosomadoras morrowi
Auchenipterichthys coracoideus

That's about it for now.

[Marc van Arc]

Marc, I haven't chimed in as all the species I keep are currently listed...

Hi Paul,
That doesn't matter; the issue is who has what and wants to share that information. The latter prevented me from asking you to join in, for I know you have Auchenipterichthys coracoideus. Didn't know about all the others though.

[daniel60, posts: 109]

Here's the latest addition to the driftwood room.
They were sold as Auchenipterichthys thoracatus but are really A. coracoideus - right?
Of course they are extreme pale on the picture.

[grokefish, posts: 1531]

OK, how many of us have attempted breeding and how many have succeeded, I think it would be great if we could pool information and some how get a most probable formula for attempting. I have just moved house recently (I was living at my girlies while my house was finnished how, she put up with having my tanks in her house for 2 years is amazing)and am in the process of re-establishing my fishouse, or the laboratory as the kids call it, and am right up for dedicating it to this idea. There seems to be alot of people breeding or attempting to breed 'plecs' and cory's and they seem to have developed a formula for many of them but I find it very difficult to find information on breeding auchenipterids, and doradids for that matter. I Started a thread on doradids a while ago and recieved no information, which either means no one is doing it, it is extremely difficult or it can't be done.
I personally am a bit worried about the lack of jaguar cats available, when I was a kid my LFS usually had one in each tank, so they have either gone out of favour (and L numbers seem to be the favorite at the moment) which I find hard to believe of such a stunning fish, or they have been overfished/habitat destroyed.
I'm gonna pull out the plugs and call in favours to get hold of some now.
You hear about fish reintroduction in other fields that have been carried out by hobbyists and it would be a shame if that terrible day came and we could do nothing about it.
Marc the Metynnis are stunning now really defined patern and red fins, I'll send you a picture if you wan't, I had these for free off a mate!!
What do you guys think?

[pturley, posts: 833]

I have witness copulations in all species listed in the post above except for the "sp Otorongo" (as I only have one) and the L. morrowi as I am not 100% certain that is what I saw, but I have never found eggs.

I have also kept and witnessed copulations in Trachylichthys decaradius as well.

The main factor IMHO in all of these copulations was FOODS and FEEDING. For me, most all witnessed copulations occured after prolonged feedings with either live insects or other nutrition dense foods (earthworm based blender mix).

There are several easily cultured prey insects that can be used as foods. Currently, I am culturing meal-worms (have forever!), Superworms (Zoophobios sps.) and a colony of Blatta lateralis(a small, tropical roach species)

BTW: don't tell my wife! She freaked out a year or so ago when she found the large colony of "death-head" roaches I had going. The conversation was something like this...

"What honey, why does hundreds of 3"-4" long roaches make you squeemish?"

[kim m, posts: 598]

I might have chance of picking up some Tatia galaxias in a few weeks...are they a hardy species, or is there something I should be aware of?