i know all i need need now, thanks for all your help.

cool, thats what i was thinking. How about plants and what kind of sand?

Could i do a couple different habitats in my tank that would be close together in the wild? if not ill just go with the driftwood snag. as for the accounts, i share a computer with other people, and two of us have accounts, which is much easier if its fine with you.

Im interested in setting up an orinoco river biotype in my 180 gallon tank. It already has an oscar, a pleco, and a black aro(i know its not from the orinoco, but its an exception). I was thinking of getting some ornate pims, how many should i get? i'll be upgrading my tank in around a year to ...