The quest for Rineloricaria (Hemiloricaria) parva
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The quest for Rineloricaria (Hemiloricaria) parva
I've tried to find images from any source I can use for this species. It's one of the most incorrectly identified species of catfish and we have it wrong on this site too. Anyone know where I can get a copy from Boulenger, 1895? Best I've found so far is an A$35 reprint of the image from Australia of all places.
Or any other source?
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Or any other source?
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Re: The quest for Rineloricaria (Hemiloricaria) parva
Hi Jools,
just did some research into this. And it did not become any clearer..
First, provided there is only one series of books/journals titled Proceedings of the Zoological Society of London, then the issues/pdfs are in principle available from Wiley: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/jour ... 0646/issue (this link should go to the 1895 issue containing p. 527).
According to our catalogue, we are supposed to have this in the University library (no online access).
However: if you quickly check the table of contents, Boulenger is not mentioned as author in that issue at all.
Ferraris in his checklist states that the first description is in:
That is a thing I could (provided no one has this book/paper/pdf at hand) check in our Library, but that would take a few days to get organized.
Regarding a picture, Ferraris states that one of the syntypes is displayed in:
Note, however, that it is from 1897 and not 1896 as stated in Ferraris.
So bottom line would be, that the reports by Boulenger should be available at our Universities Library. This is no guarantee, as I learned that occasionally, some issues are missing (usually those I would like to see).
But if no one else has easy access to those books, I could order them and see if they are really available. If so, I could copy them (nothing else allowed with these old books, usually) and scan the image.
That is one tough nut!
Cheers, Sandor
just did some research into this. And it did not become any clearer..
First, provided there is only one series of books/journals titled Proceedings of the Zoological Society of London, then the issues/pdfs are in principle available from Wiley: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/jour ... 0646/issue (this link should go to the 1895 issue containing p. 527).
According to our catalogue, we are supposed to have this in the University library (no online access).
However: if you quickly check the table of contents, Boulenger is not mentioned as author in that issue at all.
Ferraris in his checklist states that the first description is in:
So it would be possible that this abstract is given in one of the reports of that issue.Boulenger, G.A. (1895b) [Abstract of a report on a large collection of fishes formed by Dr. C. Ternetz in Matto Grosso and Paraguay, with descriptions of new species]. Proceedings of the Zoological Society of London, 1895, 523–529.
That is a thing I could (provided no one has this book/paper/pdf at hand) check in our Library, but that would take a few days to get organized.
Regarding a picture, Ferraris states that one of the syntypes is displayed in:
This one, we are also supposed to have in the Universities Library, and it is even available as PDF (though no access on my side): http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/jour ... 7301/issueBoulenger, G.A. (1896c) On a collection of fishes from the Rio Paraguay. Transactions of the Zoological Society of London, 24, 25–39, pls.1–6.
Note, however, that it is from 1897 and not 1896 as stated in Ferraris.
So bottom line would be, that the reports by Boulenger should be available at our Universities Library. This is no guarantee, as I learned that occasionally, some issues are missing (usually those I would like to see).
But if no one else has easy access to those books, I could order them and see if they are really available. If so, I could copy them (nothing else allowed with these old books, usually) and scan the image.
That is one tough nut!
Cheers, Sandor
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Re: The quest for Rineloricaria (Hemiloricaria) parva
I don't have access either...
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Re: The quest for Rineloricaria (Hemiloricaria) parva
It's a teaser isn't it!
Sandor, it would be great if you could proceed. A wait is not a problem, this thing has been wrong for years.
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Sandor, it would be great if you could proceed. A wait is not a problem, this thing has been wrong for years.
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Re: The quest for Rineloricaria (Hemiloricaria) parva
Can't help with a picture but this is in the "Proceedings of the general meetings for scientific business of the Zoological Society of London - 1895"
http://www.archive.org/details/proceedingsofgen95scie
http://www.archive.org/details/proceedingsofgen95scie
9. LORICARIA PARVA, sp. n.
Teeth small, well developed in both jaws. Head 1 1/2 as long as broad, 4 2/3 to 5 times in total length ; snout obtusely pointed, feebly projecting beyond the lip ; head-shields with longitudinal, spinulose striae, without keels ; diameter of orbit 5 1/2 to 6 times in length of head, 2 1/2 to 2 2/3 times in length of snout, 1 1/2 to 1 2/3 in interorbital width ; a broad postorbital notch ; lower labial fold moderately large, papillose, feebly notched, with a fringe of obtuse papillae. Dorsal I 7 ; first ray 1 1/4 to 1 1/3 as long as head, just above base of ventral. Pectoral I 6, as long as head or a little shorter, reaching beyond base of ventral. Ventral I 5, as long as pectoral, reaching beyond origin of anal. Anal I 5. Outer caudal rays much produced, filiform, upper longest. Lateral scutes 26-28, with two spinose ridges approximating on the 13th or 14th; nuchal shields without keels; 16 or 17 scutes between dorsal and caudal, 14 or 15 between anal and caudal. Breast and belly shielded ; pectoral shields numerous, polygonal, irregular ; ventrals 7 to 9 transversely enlarged ones on each side and 3 series of small ones in the middle. All the shields spinulose and striated. Olive above, with ill-defined dark cross-bars ; a dark streak on each side of the snout, from the tip to the eye ; fins with dark spots.
Total length 110 millim.
Numerous specimens from Descalvados, Matto Grosso.
This species is most nearly related to L. filamentosa, Stdr.
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Re: The quest for Rineloricaria (Hemiloricaria) parva
Moved to resolved as the ID of this species has been unraveled.
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