L442 is Dolichancistrus fuesslii

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L442 is Dolichancistrus fuesslii

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Ballen, 2011 finally put me on the right trail.

Dolichancistrus sp(l442) is Dolichancistrus fuesslii

That retires L 442, 443 and 444.

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Also, is there any reason to separate Dolichancistrus fuesslii from Dolichancistrus cf_setosus, aka Dolichancistrus sp(l442)?

There may very well be, but I am not seeing it.

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I'm merging L442 with D. fuesslii. And then merge in the cf. setosus as well?

I'll add some older Chaetostoma as "replacements".

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I'm merging L442 with D. fuesslii. And then merge in the cf. setosus as well?

I do not see any reason not to merge all three entries.
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Which is all fine, and great in fact, but why? What is being used to firm up these IDs? It would be Great to record that in the catelog as, in a few years time, most of us will not remember.

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I've moved all images around (aside from one "messed up" - image #11 is "broken").

I'm going to move in some Chaetostoma into the now empty spaces.

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Shane wrote:Ballen, 2011 finally put me on the right trail.
I can´t find that anywhere. Do you have a link or something else?
I would like to have a view on that as well.

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Daniel, You've got mail... ;)

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Mats,
Looks good. I did notice that the distribution is off. Distro should be the same as for Chaetostoma dorsale (upper Rio Meta drainage). Below may also help answer Jool's questions above. Provenzano's proposal, quoted below at length, also has some distribution on other spp. I'll post it seperatly so it can be added to the Cat-elog.
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From Prozenzano, ACSI Proposal No. 07-24, SPECIES OF Cordylancistrus, Dolichancistrus and Leptoancistrus (SILURIFORMES, LORICARIIDAE) FROM COLOMBIA

Dolichancistrus fuesslii (pediculatus) In CLOFSCA, the names fuesslii and pediculatus belong to two valid species. But Ambruster (2004) considers that D. pediculatus is a synonym of D. fuesslii. The type locality of D. pediculatus is Negro River a tributary of the Meta River, near Villavicencio. Steindachner (1911) indicates that the type locality of D. fuesslii is “Sosomoco, eastern Colombia, elev. 800 m.” The name “Sosomoco” doesn't appear in the geographic names of Colombia and therefore it is considered an error. According to Colombian colleagues there are two possibilities that need verification. One of them indicates that the correct name is the locality of Somondoco, to the NE of Bogotá in the Department of Boyacá. The other possibility refers to a very small river (Quebrada) denominated Susumuco (4º12'8.5”N 73º44'48.3”W, 829 m.). This quebrada drain into the Negro River and it is located in the Department of Meta, near Villavicencio. The important thing is that the two localities drain or they are part of the headwaters of the Meta River and they are near to each other. This situation seems to support that indicated by Ambruster (2004) D. pediculatus is a synonym of D. fuesslii, the valid name of the species.
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Ok, I've updated the occurrence record. I'm waiting for Jools to vet my latest changes before I edit the text field for Distribution.

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You're good to go Mats.

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Shane wrote:may also help answer Jool's questions above. Provenzano's proposal, quoted below at length, also has some distribution on other spp. I'll post it seperatly so it can be added to the Cat-elog.
Hi Shane,

Sorry, I phrased my question badly. What I meant to ask was what characterisitics match L442 to Dolichancistrus fuesslii?

Posting the other distribution info. to here would be great, but you might find it quicker to just add it to the catelog. Whatever suits, it's just great to have updates to improve the data quality.

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Actually, I think we are now waiting for Shane's "it's ok", as you've now approved the second update on the distribution.

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Greetings from Seattle. Jools, I can add the info when I get home. Mats, entry looks good.
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Shane wrote:Greetings from Seattle. Jools, I can add the info when I get home. Mats, entry looks good.
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Understood, nice one and say hello to all Schmellers!

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@Shane,

Just an overdue nudge to chase you up on that promise of adding data made above. :-)

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Jools wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:27 pm @Shane,

Just an overdue nudge to chase you up on that promise of adding data made above. :-)

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