I need another Otocinclus expert .....

James0816 · Post by **James0816** » 20 Nov 2010, 21:30

These guys just showed up on an exporter list from Peru. Never heard of these species:

Otocinclus chicharra
Otocinclus otorongo
Otocinclus tiger
Otocinclus vampiro

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
James

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 20 Nov 2010, 23:03

I could imagine "vampire" is and "tiger" is , but I could also be way off.
Thing is that these lists have a native/common name field and a scientific/latin name field and often both fields have the same (native/common!) name. Surprise yourself. I doubt there would be a huge risk when Otocinclus species are involved.

James0816 · Post by **James0816** » 20 Nov 2010, 23:23

I did find a picture of what was labeled as "tiger". It was a long slender body. Looked like a Mimulus that was stretched out. ;o)

I just hate when they list them with a common name and then the scientific name is listed as Otocinclus sp. That really tells a lot.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 20 Nov 2010, 23:26

You'd better get used to it....
Have a look.

http://www.discusfriends.org/Redipuglia ... k%2045.pdf

Post by **Silurus** » 21 Nov 2010, 01:06

I think Otocinclus vampiro is .

James0816 · Post by **James0816** » 21 Nov 2010, 02:29

That's what I am thinking as well.

James0816 · Post by **James0816** » 22 Nov 2010, 14:48

So I found this picture that was labeled as O. Otorongo. Nice lookin feller.

: OOtorongo.jpg (39.98 KiB) Viewed 4451 times

RickE · Post by **RickE** » 22 Nov 2010, 14:59

Very nice...

James0816 · Post by **James0816** » 22 Nov 2010, 15:53

Nah..that's not the Cocama.

RickE · Post by **RickE** » 22 Nov 2010, 16:40

Really? Why not?

grokefish · Post by **grokefish** » 22 Nov 2010, 16:53

Indeed why not?

James0816 · Post by **James0816** » 22 Nov 2010, 18:44

These little sweeties are Cocama:

RickE · Post by **RickE** » 22 Nov 2010, 20:42

It's not a very good pic, but I don't think so. Post some better pics and someone can probably identify them properly for you.

Anyway, compare the catelog photo of cocama to your original picture. They could be the same fish.

Mike_Noren · Post by **Mike_Noren** » 22 Nov 2010, 21:10

The otos all look like Otocinclus cocama to me.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 22 Nov 2010, 23:56

Mike_Noren wrote:The otos all look like Otocinclus cocama to me.

Agreed.

Jools

James0816 · Post by **James0816** » 23 Nov 2010, 01:21

Are you saying my second picture of Otocinclus Cocama is not actually O. Cocama??

I highly beg to differ with you on that one.

James0816 · Post by **James0816** » 23 Nov 2010, 01:27

Is this is a clearer pic for ya? Same species....O. Cocama.

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 23 Nov 2010, 01:33

James0816 wrote:Are you saying my second picture of Otocinclus Cocama is not actually O. Cocama??

No, they are saying that both pictures are of O. cocama.

There may be a bit of variation in the markings, but what makes you think this is interspecific - i.e. deviating substantially from the holotype?

The description is freely available. I would like to hear your thoughts.

Mike_Noren · Post by **Mike_Noren** » 23 Nov 2010, 01:43

racoll wrote:There may be a bit of variation in the markings

They are quite variable, and the pigmentation of O. cocama also changes with age and mood. It is possible there are geographic variants or closely related species, but if so that's unknown to me.

James0816 · Post by **James0816** » 23 Nov 2010, 01:50

Well I will definately say that this is completely new to me. I haven't seen a Cocama look like the first pic I posted..which is a strapping young feller if I must say.

I will go back and do more research.

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