Hypancistrus sp. "Platinum" aka "Corroncho Plata"

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Hypancistrus sp. "Platinum" aka "Corroncho Plata"

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Hi,
famous importer Mimbon Aquarium has imported a new kind of Hypancistrus.
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Please visit the Homepage of Mimbon:
http://www.mimbon.de/archives/869

This variant looks like L 340 type, but the pattern is great. I missed the chance to get them. They reminds me at some pictures I saw at some japanes pages, usually labeled as L 236. It seems that they came from Venezuela. I hope, I get a second chance.

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Very Nice. :thumbsup: Hope I get the chance to get a group sometime. =P~
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Any indication of what they sold for?

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Very intriguing looking Hypancistrus. If it does come the Orinoco drainage that could be good news, especially if it came from any tributaries in Colombia.
Better yet if it isn't rare where it is found and is not particularly difficult to breed.
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Wow! stunning fish :-BD

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Nice looking fish. It would bee nice seeing this fishes around.

How many fishes did he receive? They were exported from Colombia, but collected in Venezuela? Was they bought as Hypancistrus sp. Platinium or did they come with a shipment of Hypancistrus sp. L-340?

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What a nice fish! I wouldn't be surprised if the exporter want's to keep the location a secret ;)

There was something similar posted at a Taiwanese website some years ago, labelled "Hypancistrus Mega Crown Venezuela"

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...and today, something similar showed up at Japanese importer Aquafin's website, labelled "Mega Crown venezuela"...

http://aquafin.web.infoseek.co.jp/pleco ... o-top.html

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Roland (Mimbon) has kindly given me permission to use the pictures. Hypancistrus sp(1) for now...

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Hopefully not rare at the location so we could possibly see them on the market at a halfway affordable price. Exciting anyway.
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Coloring and pattern is similar to the unknown Leporacanthicus "black and white": http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... =5&t=32249

Convergent evolution? The Hypan and the Lepora are both from Venezuela (maybe similar drainage?).

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Linus_Cello wrote:The Hypan and the Lepora are both from Venezuela (maybe similar drainage?).
I'm not sure I've seen any concrete info on where it lives in the wild. All I have is that's it was exported from Bogotá.

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Linus_Cello wrote:Coloring and pattern is similar to the unknown Leporacanthicus "black and white": http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... =5&t=32249

Convergent evolution? The Hypan and the Lepora are both from Venezuela (maybe similar drainage?).
It wouldn't be the first case of convergent coloration patterns, as Pseudolithoxus tigris has a similar pattern to L260, H. subviridis has the same pattern as B. demantoides, and tons of loricariids are black with white spots. I don't think you can use color pattern as an indication of whether they live in the same drainage; while H. subviridis and B. demantoides do live in the same drainage, P. tigris and L260 certainly don't. Still, it is an interesting point that you raise.
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If anyone checks some of the Japanese/Southeast Asian sale sites often enough, these seem to either be imported in seasonal quantities enough for them to have them available often or smaller quantities imported more often as similar fish are often listed. Most Japanese sites I look at tend to show pics of the actual fish being offered. Regardless, this is the first time I've heard of them being available to anyone in Europe or North America. They've been on my wish list for a couple years, since I first saw them on a Japanese site labeled as L236, but I've never seen them offered anywhere here. I can only hope this means the market is finally going to start spreading to the rest of the world.

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Hi,

the ones above are listed as H. sp. "Platinum/Empereor": http://aquafin.web.infoseek.co.jp/pleco ... o-top.html

More pics on their facebook-page.
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As an aside, the next time someone suggests that the l-number system should be scrapped, let's agree and we can stick with calling this Mega Crown Pleco until it's described! :-)

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Sorry, who's facebook page - Mimbon or Aquafin? Do you have a link to that?

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Hi,

search for "異型俱樂部" in facebook and tick the first one, there you´ll find a gallery with some more stunning Hypancistrus sp. "whatever".
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That's top of my list absolutely stunning
I bet they will be priced at Hypancistrus Zebar
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I looked on the site acanthicus posted-----Holy crap, how do these guys get such a vast selection, its impossible to get that sort of selection here and I have friends that buy direct from importers including Unungy. Probably a good thing so I dont open a second Mortgage to expand my stock and fishroom :d
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As an aside, the next time someone suggests that the l-number system should be scrapped, let's agree and we can stick with calling this Mega Crown Pleco until it's described!
Why not use its local name Corroncho plata (silver pleco)? This would be more useful than an L Number since it is at least descriptive of the fish and tells us where it originates.

From an evolutionary (taxonomic) standpoint Hypancistrus, as currently defined, is making less and less sense to me. The vast majority of described spp (over 90%) are from the Orinoco and Negro (which are connected by the Casiquiare channel) with H. zebra an outlier from a totally different system. I suspect that Hypancistrus will eventually be restricted to the Xingu complex of fishes while we will need a new genus for the Orinoco/Negro fishes. There is just too big of a gap between these drainages (i.e. a lack of Hypancistrus populations) for this to make evolutionary sense, even if the Xingu and Orinoco/Negro fishes share some common characteristics.

This fish is not offered on any of the Bogota lists I normally receive, but I'll ask around and see what I can find out. The use of the term "corroncho" at least tells us that it is an Orinoco spp as further north and west they use the term "cucha." One more reason to stick with names that actually tell us something.

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