Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 01 Oct 2006, 15:21

This question was already raised in another thread, but it was rather hidden in there, so a new thread seemed best.
I'll kick off.
Ageneiosus vittatus (3)
(2)
(3)
(6)
(was Auchenipterinae sp`guyana`) *(2)
(* genus/species still uncertain)
(9)
(7)
(13)
(5)
Trachelyopterus sp. 3 (not yet in Cat-eLog)

Who's next? Let's have it!

[Mod edit: Update species name to Spinipterus acsi --Mats]

Dave Rinaldo · Post by **Dave Rinaldo** » 01 Oct 2006, 16:28

Here's what I have today.

(2)
(3)
(1)
(2)
(3)

kim m · Post by **kim m** » 01 Oct 2006, 17:00

Tatia perugiae (5)

...looking for more though

Richard B · Post by **Richard B** » 01 Oct 2006, 18:26

L.Oncinus x1

One of my favouites-but auchenipterids aren't really my favourite family

apistomaster · Post by **apistomaster** » 01 Oct 2006, 18:40

Just 20 Tatia perugiae.
Larry

daniel60 · Post by **daniel60** » 01 Oct 2006, 18:41

(5)
(10)
(6)
(300)

Mars · Post by **Mars** » 01 Oct 2006, 19:30

I only have 2 Tatia perugiae

CFC · Post by **CFC** » 02 Oct 2006, 07:45

1 Ageneiosus polysticus female, looking for a male
2 Ageneiosus marmoratus, as yet unsexed
2 Tatia intermedia m/f
1 Trachelyopterus sp "guyana", bought as "unknown woodcat" in the hope that it was something larger (vain hope it was a Trachycorystes species)

edited for spelling

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 02 Oct 2006, 20:37

daniel60 wrote:
Tatia intermedia
(300)

You've forgotten the parents

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 02 Oct 2006, 20:45

CFC wrote:1 Trachelyopterus sp "guyana", bought as "unknown woodcat" in the hope that it was something larger (vain hope it was a Trachycorystes species)

An interesting remark. When I sent pictures of my specimen to Dr. Ferraris his first impression of the fish was juvenile Trachycorystes trachycorystes. But, as you've found out too, it isn't. It would have fitted your tank though, with all those Ageneiosids.
I take it the Tatias and Trachelyopterus sp "guyana" are in a different tank?

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 02 Oct 2006, 20:56

Dave Rinaldo wrote:
Trachelyopterus albicrux
(3)

Very nice fish Dave. Never seen these overhere. Is there a pair in your 3 specimen? As far as I can see I can only recognize a female/females on your photos.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 02 Oct 2006, 21:01

Richard B wrote:L.Oncinus. One of my favouites-but auchenipterids aren't really my favourite family

Richard,
Don't worry. Rumour has it that the Czechs are working on a hybrid Syno with a jaguar pattern....

Rocket · Post by **Rocket** » 03 Oct 2006, 00:30

(2)
(2)

CFC · Post by **CFC** » 03 Oct 2006, 20:20

Marc van Arc wrote:
CFC wrote:1 Trachelyopterus sp "guyana", bought as "unknown woodcat" in the hope that it was something larger (vain hope it was a Trachycorystes species)
An interesting remark. When I sent pictures of my specimen to Dr. Ferraris his first impression of the fish was juvenile Trachycorystes trachycorystes. But, as you've found out too, it isn't. It would have fitted your tank though, with all those Ageneiosids.
I take it the Tatias and Trachelyopterus sp "guyana" are in a different tank?

They are actually all in different tanks, i run a fairly large fishroom with 17 tanks ranging between 800 and 40 litres and they all have a catfish or two (or 3 or 4 lol) apart from my snakehead and electric eel tanks (for obvious reasons.
I really want a Trachycorystes as an addition to my "aggressive" tank as i understand they are quite bitey and can look after themselves so should fit in well, but as yet the only one i can find is a bit on the pricey side for my pocket.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 03 Oct 2006, 23:01

CFC wrote:I really want a Trachycorystes as an addition to my "aggressive" tank as i understand they are quite bitey and can look after themselves so should fit in well, but as yet the only one i can find is a bit on the pricey side for my pocket.

To give you an idea: the Trachycorystes trachycorystes I had (for one day) cost 200 euros, which is about 150 pounds.
I paid 120 euros for it (90 pounds), which is still a lot of money.
I don't know what you call pricey, but I think the chances of finding one cheap are very little. But isn't that often the dilemma: spending (much) more money than intended which gives you a headache or not buying, seeing it's sold one day and having regrets for a long time....

CFC · Post by **CFC** » 04 Oct 2006, 17:12

What that should have said is that its a bit on the pricey side for my pocket at the moment, but for some reason i cut myself short lol.
The one that is available to me is Â£75 plus Â£15 shipping to have it delivered, which isnt bad really, but i've already spent a substancial chunk of my yearly budget this year buying a matched pair of Hemibagrus punctatus (collected together from the same spot apperently and have been co habiting in the same plastic tube in a 400 litre tank for 6 months now)and a Cephalosilurus nigricauda, plus a few other non catfish species with a total spend of around Â£700 this year. My wife is good but she will only sit and smile for so long before she starts moaning about how much my fish cost

Also i'm an outside contractor for a living so with winter coming i do have to watch the finances.

I've pretty much promised myself that if the Trachy is still there after christmas it will be mine and if not i'm sure another one will turn up sooner or later.

Walter · Post by **Walter** » 05 Oct 2006, 14:06

Hi,
I keep Trachelyopterichthys cf. taeniatus.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 05 Oct 2006, 15:58

Walter wrote:Hi,
I keep Trachelyopterichthys cf. taeniatus.

Hi Walter,
That cf. part sounds interesting. Because if it is Trachelyopterichthys but not taeniatus, it can only be T. anduzei. And that is a species I've never seen before.
Any chance of a picture?

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 05 Oct 2006, 17:54

Hi Rocket,
Just today I could add another Auchenipterid species that you are familiar with: .
However, I wonder what the difference is between T. exilis and T. decaradiatus. They were labelled T. decaradiatus (which refers to the 10 rays in the ventral fins) but I find it hard to find any differences in the pictures I have of these two species. Moreover, I can't possibly find out if T. exilis has 10 rays or not...
So I've added two (rather poor) pictures to this post.
Anyone who might shine a light on this issue is welcome to react.

Walter · Post by **Walter** » 06 Oct 2006, 10:29

Hi Marc,

Marc van Arc wrote: That cf. part sounds interesting. Because if it is Trachelyopterichthys but not taeniatus,

I think, that its T. taeniatus, but IÂ´m not 100 % sure - otherwise, if I thought, that its a different species, I would have written T. spec. aff. taeniatus.

But take a look, the pattern of the lateral side of my specimens differs from the specimens shown in PC CatElog.

The "good" pics took AndrÃ© ;)

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 06 Oct 2006, 16:56

Walter,
The main problem is that I haven't got a clue what T. anduzei should look like.....
Surely your specimen are paler than the ones in the CateLog, but - as you already indicated - they might be T. taeniatus after all. Have you got any idea how old your specimen are?
Perhaps pattern fades with age.

Btw: there is nothing wrong with your picture; imo it's the nicest of the three.

Walter · Post by **Walter** » 06 Oct 2006, 17:42

Hi Marc,
no - no idea.
I think, they are adult, I got them adult, they have been imported adult...
This species shows a hudge distribution, maybe there are different types of coloration in specimen of different origin... (and maybe there is more than one or two species of this genus - but not described yet).

Anyway, I guess, the "cf." is a good solution to name them ;)

daniel60 · Post by **daniel60** » 06 Oct 2006, 22:18

I think they look like the ones I call T. taeniatus:

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 13 Oct 2006, 23:52

No-one else? If so, the number of Auchenipterid fans is far less than I had expected....

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 17 Oct 2006, 23:09

Marc van Arc wrote: The main problem is that I haven't got a clue what T. anduzei should look like.....

Walter, I saw pictures of T. anduzei and it's definitely NOT your fish. Check this link http://www.auburn.edu/academic/science_ ... ndex1.html

click Siluriformes, then Auchenipteridae and scroll down.

grokefish · Post by **grokefish** » 18 Oct 2006, 07:08

Hi everyone sorry I'm late...
Trachycorystes Trachycorystes
Liosmodoras Morrowi
Tatia perugiae
Tatia Galaxius
and a fish I bought only labeled as Zamora cat, which I havn't seen for so long I can't remember which tank he is in.
CFC You can have the Trachy for nothing if you come and pick him up, I'm just outside of swansea in banjo country so bring your bow or I can drop him off next time I'm in London which part are you in?
He is really peacefull as I have said in other posts but I'm afraid he's gotta go to make way for my Xingu tank, sorry guys but I'm being slowly converted to Lorriicaridae.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 18 Oct 2006, 07:50

grokefish wrote: and a fish I bought only labeled as Zamora cat

That's

grokefish wrote: sorry guys but I'm being slowly converted to Lorriicaridae.

You're joking, aren't you

grokefish · Post by **grokefish** » 18 Oct 2006, 08:14

Here Marc I've got a video of my false jaguars doing something strange, they are not quite fighting I've seen them do that, do you think I could e-mail it to you for your opinion. It's a bit to big for me to post on putfile and my website is still not up and running,(too busy working). My email is [email protected], if you can E-mail me I'll send it to you, it's 71 MB.

grokefish · Post by **grokefish** » 18 Oct 2006, 09:28

Right here it is on U tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5uQiO7I-0U
What do you think I have more this went on for appx 2 hrs

CFC · Post by **CFC** » 18 Oct 2006, 09:46

grokefish wrote:Hi everyone sorry I'm late...
Trachycorystes Trachycorystes
Liosmodoras Morrowi
Tatia perugiae
Tatia Galaxius
and a fish I bought only labeled as Zamora cat, which I havn't seen for so long I can't remember which tank he is in.
CFC You can have the Trachy for nothing if you come and pick him up, I'm just outside of swansea in banjo country so bring your bow or I can drop him off next time I'm in London which part are you in?
He is really peacefull as I have said in other posts but I'm afraid he's gotta go to make way for my Xingu tank, sorry guys but I'm being slowly converted to Lorriicaridae.

WOW that is a very kind offer, you should have a PM in your inbox

Hopefully i'll see you soon.

Those jaguars were really going at it, it looks like they are establishing a pecking order as one is doing most of the pushing while the other is staying still and rigid.