Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

[Jools]

BTW, Wrasse, I don't think that species is in the cat-elog. Do you have any pictures I could use for the site...

Cheers,

Jools

[jodilynn]

NO! Don't lock it, this is one of my favorite threads! It is a wealth of information!

[wrasse]

Here's one of the new large Tatia species species that has recently appeared in the hobby.

[Marc van Arc]

BTW, I don't think that species is in the cat-elog.

I'd say it is. How about

Tatia brunnea

?

Never mind the supposed maximum length; Kruseman has T. strigata which are 9 cms TL...

[wrasse]

This is one family of catfish that needs re-classifying... Tatia and Centromochlids.

The above fish has a similar pattern to Tatia Brunnea. I asked Steven Grant his view - 'I've checked the neurocranium of your fish and they do not match brunnea. Colour pattern is similar but osteology is different'...

[Jools]

I am keeping

Tatia brunnea

(or, at least, what we think it is) for some time now and a group that was also imported at the same time as Richard's fishes. When similar sizes they looked very similar but I have changed my mind on them over time. They're just not the same thing when compared as adult fishes.

I've not looked at osteology, nor have I considered geography. However, I have seen the larger growing fish in small size now and they have thresher caudal fins, plus they grow to three times the size and have different caudal and adipose fin morphology when larger. I strongly suspect someone looking at them professionally would find more differences. The patterning is very similar but I am not sure that counts for a lot given the other differences.

Jools
As a side note, it would be good to update the

Tatia strigata

entry with an SL of Kruseman's fishes - is that known? I think the info there is that from the description which is usually a minimum maximum size!

[kruseman]

After a couple of months I realeased my two Tatia strigata in the tank where their father and mother and uncle reside.
They're about 5 cm now and doing fine.
By the way: It's a boy and a girl!

[kruseman]

An adult male

[kruseman]

As a side note, it would be good to update the Tatia strigata entry with an SL of Kruseman's fishes - is that known?

Yes it is: 8 cm.

cheers,
Arjan

[Jools]

Done. Can I use your pic above?

Cheers,

Jools

[kruseman]

Hi Jools,

Sure you can.

thanks,
Arjan

[Richard B]

Although not kept....

I had a very brief pop in to MA Wheatley yesterday -

Liosomadoras morrowi

only £9.50 each, &

Centromochlus schultzi

£15 each

[Richard B]

[kruseman]

What a great picture! I count 15 tails and 1 head.

[Richard B]

@kruseman - its not even a complete tank shot!

I was particularly interested in the spotting density on the bodies as it doesn't appear to be consistent with overall size.

A difference between the sexes? Something else?

[Marc van Arc]

Probably a nice chance for Dutch, Belgian or German Auchenipteridae fans: Tympanopleura spec. 3, now available at Utaka, Amersfoort.
A rare find over here.
Imho this is the best aquatic store in The Netherlands, so always worth a visit.

[Marc van Arc]

Drastic decisions ahead. If all is well, I will visit Utaka next Saturday. Not to obtain the above Ageneiosus, but to hand in my remaining auchenipterids.
And as the Hypoptopoma are also on the list of outgoing fishes, this implies that I will not only have no more auchenipterids, but also no more catfishes at all as of next week. That's something new......

[Atmichaels]

Marc, this makes me sad.

[bekateen]

So will you have any fish at all? Are you getting rid of everything, or just your catfishes?

Cheers, Eric

[Marc van Arc]

Marc, this makes me sad.

Me too, but on the other hand I also feel relieved. As said, I may have been keeping invisible fishes for too long and I felt I had to do something new or stop completely.
I have really been thinking very hard about keeping either less individuals per species or keeping just one species, but in either case there's still going to be the fact that they will remain invisible.
Wrt the fishes: they are going to a good place. The owner of the Utaka LFS appreciates them and I'm sure he will provide good new homes for them.

Last summer I got inspired by the Dordogne once again, so I'm going to make the tank more open (less wood, some stones, more current). The inhabitants are going to be barbs (Sahyadria denisonii and Dawkinsia filamentosa), combined with Awaous gobies. That should give me plenty to see.
I'm on the lookout for Mystus bimaculatus, for I should really have one catfish species in my tank.
Until I find these, I will have to do with the Ictalurus in the pond.

[Shovelnose]

The inhabitants are going to be barbs (Sahyadria denisonii and Dawkinsia filamentosa), combined with Awaous gobies.

I would suggest avoiding the Awaous and going for smaller gobies as I have seen Awaous reach over 10 inches TL. Combined with a predatory instinct, this would pose a real danger to your barbs. Another worry (especially if you are looking at an Asian species) would be if they turn out to be Glossogobius giuris instead.

[Marc van Arc]

Hello Balaji,

Thanks for your concern. As I'm new to this, it's appreciated.
These are not Glossogobius afaics as they don't have the pike-like beak.
They seem pretty harmless diggers imho.
Here's a youtube film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN78FXn ... e=youtu.be
Let me know what you think please.

[Marc van Arc]

My Auchenipteridae era has ended today. And, for the time being, the same goes for my aquarium catfish era.

[Shovelnose]

Hello Balaji,

Thanks for your concern. As I'm new to this, it's appreciated.
These are not Glossogobius afaics as they don't have the pike-like beak.
They seem pretty harmless diggers imho.
Here's a youtube film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN78FXn ... e=youtu.be
Let me know what you think please.

Hey Marc, this does look like an Awaous sp..I have only kept Indian species so I don't know if these gobies will 'behave' or what size they will grow to. If you are interested in gobies, I would also suggest you go in for a Sicyopterus sp. or Schismatogobius ampluvinculus which I am told are available on a regular basis these days.

[kruseman]

My Auchenipteridae era has ended today. And, for the time being, the same goes for my aquarium catfish era.

I took some pictures of this historical event

Carefully the shopassistent catches the fish from the bucket


Trachelyopterichthys taeniatus


Auchenipterichthys coracoideus


Spinipterus sp. (1)


The new tank


and their new home: waiting for some dedicated fishkeepers
Utaka, Amersfoort

[rob rensen]

Well, the spiniterus sp 1 are soon getting a new home.......

[Marc van Arc]

Hi Rob,

I was told you are also going to buy the A. punctatus.
That's a very good thing. I hoped for a good home for my fishes and this hope is going to be fulfilled.
Hopefully the A. coracoideus and T. taeniatus will find good homes too.

[rob rensen]

Hi Rob,

I was told you are also going to buy the A. punctatus.
That's a very good thing. I hoped for a good home for my fishes and this hope is going to be fulfilled.
Hopefully the A. coracoideus and T. taeniatus will find good homes too.

That's correct, you are well informed .....I love those kinda catfish. I'll consider to also buy the taeniatus.
I'll take good care of them

[rob rensen]

The Trachelyopterichthys taeniatus and the Auchenipterichthys coracoideus also have found a new home

[Marc van Arc]

The Trachelyopterichthys taeniatus and the Auchenipterichthys coracoideus also have found a new home

Hello Rob,

I'm really happy for my former fishes that they are all going to live at your place. Given what you've done to the Trachelyopterus spec. 3, I doubt that there would have been a better place in The Netherlands they could have moved to.
I was hoping for good homes and now they are all going to one good home. That's a relief!
Thank you. You've made my day!

Regards,
Marc

PS: I take it you won't keep them together with the T. spec 3?