Do anybody know this one???

Post by **Silurus** » 31 Mar 2003, 03:04

Looks like <i>Pseudancistrus</i> sp., L17/67.

fishworld · Post by **fishworld** » 31 Mar 2003, 11:16

hi

i dondt think it's a L17/67 this one is an ancistrinae sp and not a Pseudancistrus sp

i think it is an L - 33 Lasiancistrus spec. but i`m not sure

cu mike

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 31 Mar 2003, 11:33

Hi!

Lasiancistrus species could well be it as the fish look "flat enough, and it does not have a far enough high body to be a Pseudancistrus. It is also lacking the yellow seam on the fins to be L17/67!
Cheers
Yann

Marshel · Post by **Marshel** » 02 Apr 2003, 03:58

Thanks for all of your effort.

But I think it is neither L17/67 nor L33.

This is just my thought.

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 02 Apr 2003, 21:10

Hi!
And according to you, what could it be?
Under what name did you buy it?
How big is he?
It also could be a Pseudolithoxus anthrax at a very young stage, the pectoral fin are rather long, odontodes grow can be see starting and look like they will be numerous. THe dorsal and caudal fins have some white marging the spot numbers and size are rather coresponding
But so far it is only guess as if it is this fish, it is clearly a juvenil and it might be a bit early to give a correct ID on this one. Maybe we should wait for him to grow a bit!
Cheers
Yann

Marshel · Post by **Marshel** » 07 Apr 2003, 04:00

Sorry, this is not my fish.

I posted the reply from Andre Werner of Transfish just for the information and discussion.

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Dear Mr.Marshel Lee,

Your fish is possibly
Pseudolithoxus nicoi (on our homepage under "Sonstige Loricariidae")
or L 235 Pseudolithoxus anthrax (our picture on our homepage shows a fish approx.6-7 inches long.

The only difference between P.nicoi and P.anthrax ,is that P.nicoi has a white seam on the dorsal and caudal fin and
anthrax dont have this white seam.

your fish is showing only a little bit of white seam on the dorsal and caudal fin.

Possibly P.anthrax and P.nicoi is the same species.

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 07 Apr 2003, 18:36

Hi!

I thought at Pseudolithoxus nicoi as well but the fact that he has a rather big white seam on the dorsal and caudal fins sort of rule him out.
If your fish would have been Pseudolithoxus nicoi, I guess he would have a really well marked white marging.

In the description, Abdomen slightly lighter than side, occasionally with light spots. A white band always present at the edge of caudal fin, a white band occasionally present at the edge of the dorsal fins ( Strangely the picture of the Holotype of Pseudolithoxus nicoi lacks these white band, but the fins seems to be a bit damaged.

The big question regarding your fish is does the white zone present at the top of the hard ray of both dorsal and caudal fins should be considered as spots or to a possible former with band which could have disapear because the fins were dammage when he got caught.

I have noticed with several Loricariids that the marking of the fins can change greatyl after regrowing after being badly dammaged.

But in the description of Pseudolithoxus anthrax, it is said that light spots usually present at the tips of the caudal-fin spines, white band never present at edge of dorsal or caudal fins.

Well regarding all being said up, I would highly think that your fish is a young specimen of Pseudolithoxus anthrax and not a specimen of P. nicoi.

Cheers
Yann

Marshel · Post by **Marshel** » 09 Apr 2003, 06:37

Really appreciate your kind explanation.

Cordially
Marshel