SPLIT: König's "LDA33" that isn't!

König Löwe · Post by **König Löwe** » 10 Jul 2003, 22:09

That looks like an LDA-33 to me, Pleco33.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 11 Jul 2003, 12:29

KÃ¶nig LÃ¶we wrote:That looks like an LDA-33 to me, pl*co33.

KÃ¶nig,

What makes you say that? The post at the top of the topic is clearly not a Baryancistrus sp. - look at the gap between the posterior of the dorsal and the leading adipose fin ray.

Jools

König Löwe · Post by **König Löwe** » 11 Jul 2003, 14:35

Nothing else than that i have one LDA-33 and this last one looked much more like a LDA-33 than a black Hypancistrus with spots. I don't have any of the "scientific" knowledge that some of you have.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 11 Jul 2003, 18:48

Konig,

One of the characterisitics that we look for in Baryancistrus is a flap of skin joining the last dorsal fin ray to the back of the fish. It looks like this:

I don't see this on the fish above hence my call on the ID (along with the large eye and the fact that I'm familiar with this fish "in the flesh").

Jools

König Löwe · Post by **König Löwe** » 11 Jul 2003, 18:57

How are you able to see that in the picture? (to avoid any confusion, I am talking about pleco33's picture)

Ant by the way, thanks for telling me about the skin flap

König Löwe · Post by **König Löwe** » 11 Jul 2003, 20:16

I just had a look at my "LDA-33"... No skin flap there... So I take it it's no Baryancistrus, neither is it an LDA-33. Could it be a Scobiancistrus sp. L-133?

(picture number three)
http://akvariet.nu/diskusjon/messages/15187/39395.html

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 11 Jul 2003, 20:38

Doesn't look like a Baryancistrus. More like a Leporancathicus - can we get some shots of the mouth and a close up of the head. These fish are such a nighmare to ID.

Jools

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 12 Jul 2003, 12:36

Hi!

Yes it is for sure a Leporacanthicus, regarding the colour pattern and the dots should be either Leporacanthicus galaxias or Leporacanthicus cf galaxias. Your fish should be called the latter because of the unknown origin of your fish.
Under what name did you buy it?
Any idea form what country he was imported?
Cheers
Yann

König Löwe · Post by **König Löwe** » 12 Jul 2003, 13:27

I've had a chat with Jools, and it doesn't seem that it is a Leporacanthicus or a Scobiancistrus, the shape/"content" of the mouth does not match. Allso, it doesnt have the "horn" on the forehead that Leporacanthicus has.

I bought it as "Baryancistrus sp. LDA-33 polka-dot", I do not know where it was caught.
I will try getting some better pics of it, but he/she is quite shy. When i got it, I got two, but the smallest one died a few months ago. That one used to hang around on the front glass (which the one in the picture never does), the mouth had more of a Parancistrus/Chaetostoma shape, big and wide. I'm taking a wild guess here, but could it be a big spotted Parancistrus?

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 12 Jul 2003, 15:04

Not a Parancistrus but maybe Oligancistrus?

Jools

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 13 Jul 2003, 12:29

Hi!
Could it be a Spectracanthicus?
It has also the general look!
Cheers
Yann

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 13 Jul 2003, 12:42

yannfulliquet wrote:Could it be a Spectracanthicus?

I would agree with that, but what we really need are lots of pictures of the fish and perhaps a year or two to see how it grows.

Jools

König Löwe · Post by **König Löwe** » 14 Jul 2003, 15:23

Here's a pic of it's head.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 14 Jul 2003, 15:26

That really does not look like a Leporacanthicus to me. The sucker disc should have a rougher edge and I can't make out the protrudance on the top of the head.

Interesting...

Jools

SPLIT: König's "LDA33" that isn't!

SPLIT: KÃ¶nig's "LDA33" that isn't!