Please help me with "L" identification

[kuba_n]

Hi friends,
bought these plecos as L135, but rather would say its L015 or another Peckoltia (hope so).
Thank you for your help

[Koi-fantast]

L288?

[kuba_n]

Dont have any idea... Is there any chance to breed? Have 1+3 right now

[stuby]

To me they look very similar to what Ingo Seidel has in his book Back to Nature Guide to L-Catfish as "Peckoltia sp. Rio Tocantins". I've seen some come in lately that appear to be this fish as well... being sold as L15.

HTH
Chuck

[kuba_n]

To me they look very similar to what Ingo Seidel has in his book Back to Nature Guide to L-Catfish as "Peckoltia sp. Rio Tocantins". I've seen some come in lately that appear to be this fish as well... being sold as L15.

HTH
Chuck

So I probably have any Peckoltia sp. without exact specification, as there is lot of species with little differents.
Maybe it can be Rio Tocantis or similar.
Anyway, there is very small chance to breed this.

[stuby]

Yes, I would say it is a Peckoltia sp. at least..... they grow to around 6" (~15cm) and as far as care they would be along the same lines as any Peckoltia from the same area. As far as breeding I have not gotten them to breed yet... but I haven't really worked at it either so hard to say. I suspect they are along the lines of the L377 and the like so very doable. Just takes time and the right conditions..... and of course a pair.

Take care,
Chuck

[Koi-fantast]

I have breed some hundreds of L15 not knowing if all L15 are that easy or if there are different lines that are easier to breed within one species. Maybe my conditions that I offer are the best for L15 that have them breeding. Hard to say.. really.. I know that my L15 are offspring from what Janne Ekström had when he was breeding plecos in Sweden so the line are some 15 years going now. No side effects that I can see.

[kuba_n]

Hi guys,
thanks so much for your help. Ive bought 1x male and 3x female, they are around 11 cm.
Do you have any suggestions what to try, even there is small chance to breed them.
Thank you once again

[stuby]

Hi guys,
thanks so much for your help. Ive bought 1x male and 3x female, they are around 11 cm.
Do you have any suggestions what to try, even there is small chance to breed them.
Thank you once again

When they get settled in I would try a dry/rainy season to get them to breed. Basicaly higher temps ~28c for a couple weeks then drop it down 2 to 3 degrees with some larger (~50%) water changes.... dropping the TDS some may also help.

HTH
Chuck

[Fundulopanchax76]

Ok and what are my fish ? Could somebody help ?

[Fundulopanchax76]

And some more pics !

[bekateen]

Hi Fundulopanchax76,

I know we've discussed these fish before, but if I recall correctly you were never confident in the ID of the fish.

Are the photos from the dorsal views of the same fish as is shown in the side views? And are they of the same fish in the first set of side views and in the second set of side views?

The dorsal views really resemble a typical debilittera type to me. The first photos in side view resemble a very matured debilittera type (as mine are aging, their pale stripes are shrinking more and more, leaving the body mostly slate-gray/black colored). The stripes on the bottom photos remind me (almost) of a

Panaqolus

, but the tail says

Hypancistrus

to me.

Cheers, Eric

[Acanthicus]

Hi

Thats pretty much a typical L 129, H. debilittera

[Fundulopanchax76]

Pictures with dorsal view are from 1 and a half year ago when i bouth them ! From the right profile is smaller fish which i think is female and from the left profile is bigger fish that i think is male !
Thank you Acanthicus if you are so sure ! They were sold to me as L 15 ! lol

[kuba_n]

Hi guys, thank you all for your help. I bred them few weeks ago.

[bekateen]

I bred them few weeks ago.

They spawned for you? Congratulations!

Cheers, Eric

[stuby]

Congratulations on the spawn! Please post some pictures of the fry when you get a chance..... I would love to see what they look like as fry!

Take care,
Chuck

[kuba_n]

Congratulations on the spawn! Please post some pictures of the fry when you get a chance..... I would love to see what they look like as fry!

Take care,
Chuck

Hi Chuck,
see very short yotube video. Will add more...
Https://youtu.be/PDnkiWJzSf4

Moderator note: Your links were broken so I fixed them. Thanks for sharing.

[stuby]

Very nice! I do love baby pictures! Thanks for sharing!!

Take care,
Chuck