Hairy orange Loricarid?? LOTS o PIX!

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 06 May 2004, 20:10

Hi guys

somehow I couldn't resist when I stumbled across a tank full of hairy fish!
It was obvious some sort of "Loricaria", and there were pairs too; 4 "hairy" ones and two identical without "hairs"...
I got one with and one without hairs.....
So you can break your teeth on these! They're about 5,5", bright orange, and the male's hairy all over, even on the tail! They were named "Loricaria" something, so....
And NO they're not for the Tangies, I have a riverine tank with Cory's, Amphilius, Rasbora's etc where they're going to stay.

still in the bag. check out upside of tail!

just after being released; he's off-color (stress), but was bright orange in the LFS.

side view

look at the sideburns on this sucker!

head in profile

she's virually hairless, but much nicer in color!

true cat-eyes! (pun intended!)

Sid.

And I'm not even into L-numbers!
but this non-Ancistrinae weirdo-hairball HAD to follow me home....

pturley · Post by **pturley** » 06 May 2004, 22:18

First glance looks like a Hemiloricaria spp., but can you post a pic of the underside of the fish including the mouth?

This would help alot in the ID.

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 06 May 2004, 23:13

Coming up soon, but then I have to handle them, and hold them against the window of the tank.....

They're great diggers!
just after posting above, I turned to look at the tank: where were the fish?
It showed they can "sink in" the sand at an alarming rate!
Just the eyes showed....
A great fish!
hairy, orange, weird behaviour and sort of an armadillo when it comes to burrowing; I like them already!

I already have some sort of "rhineloricaria"; two pairs of what looks like a slim, light colored version of R lanceolata; the things you can see in the LFS sold as "L parva". Those often attach themselves to wood or windows, like any run-off-the-mill Loricariid.
THIS fish is something else....
MUCH bigger, MUCH sturdier, and that behaviour is different too...

I think -but don't pin me on this- that they're more related to "sandkites" like the famous Hemiodon and Loricaria nickeriensis; the one with that frippery sucker; a true sandfish.

You all know "L-number tanks" where fish are hanging on wood, glass, rocks etc. these were all laying on the floor, and didn't use their mouths to anchor themselves at all....

Rense · Post by **Rense** » 06 May 2004, 23:20

Hehehe,
Sid's got some weird animals again

They look fantastic, How long will it take to breed them? With you, i guess about 2 days

Rense

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 06 May 2004, 23:28

too much credit!
don't tempt me...
I'm still breaking my teeth on Synodontis polli (the true one)

BUT there's another buch of Phyllonemus typus well under way, AND another batch of Lophiobagrus brevispinis; I introduced the female in a separate tank with the male, and they're all cosey again....

Rense · Post by **Rense** » 06 May 2004, 23:33

There has to be 1 fish you can't breed

Is 1 of the holding typus the one with the big smile? That was 1 great picture!(and great fish)

I put my brevispinis back in the tank, I hope they will do fine, they don't look sick to me. But i'm a rookie on catfish

I think I got 2 males and 1 female, now lets hope I can also breed this fish.

pturley · Post by **pturley** » 07 May 2004, 04:23

Found it!:

Rineloricaria (Hemiloricaria?) latirostris. See page 653 of the WELS ATLAS.

The species is also listed in the Cat-ELog but one of the photos appears to be a different color form and the other isn't that clear.

Excellent find, but one question: Why in the world did you only buy the ONE pair!?

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 07 May 2004, 13:02

Because the riverine tank isn't that big, and I'm overcrowding already.....

Fish like these don't like crowded tanks; esp not with many catfish; it's like everyone's sitting on your head all day, when living in the sand......

HEY it wasn't easy to keep the lid on my "fishcollecting urges"

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 08 May 2004, 08:08

pturley wrote:The species is also listed in the Cat-ELog but one of the photos appears to be a different color form and the other isn't that clear.

is actually the same fish I think as your Sid. The one Paul mentions above was able to be ID'ed to species mainly due to the fact the pics were taken inthe wild.

These did remain in Rineloricaria after the revision. Ask Coryman about these, he kept some and were photographed by him for the site. Sometimes mistakenly referred to as R. morrowi. And, yes, they love to bury themselves in sand and leaf litter.

Jools

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 09 May 2004, 14:29

I'm convinced I have the true latirostris; there's a population of that fish that's bright orange in coloration, and mine are still like that....They don't change their color into the "leaf and gravel-mix" color, the "aff latirostris" and the other Latirostris have.

They're showing up a bit more , now; but they definitely love to spend most of their time buried.....

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 10 May 2004, 22:17

If I remeber correctly, the reason for the split was that the true latirostris was from Rio de Janiero and the other from Peru (I think - bit foggy on that one). Hence the seperation, it didn't have anything to do with colouration as far as I can remember.

Hans-Georg Evers is the man to ask about this fish.

Jools