Liobagrus kingi

[Silurus]

The published drawing is quite an inaccurate rendition of this species. Here is the one from the original description for comparison.

[Jools]

You're not kidding - they are very different! I could remove the species entry, or perhaps we can get permission to use the better drawing? Out of curiosity though, have you seen the actual live fish or a photograph of it? I ask because how do we know which one is closest to the fish in life?

Jools

[Silurus]

I would tend to believe the drawing in the original description, if only because it is THE original description (that said, I've seen some pretty crappy illustrations in original descriptions that look nothing like the fish). The drawing I posted is a more accurate rendition of what a Liobagrus looks like anyway.
The description dates from 1935, so I suppose copyright is no longer an issue?

[MatsP]

Copyright laws are COMPLEX, but I think you'll have to verify if the author of the work has been dead long enough, as well as the printed publication being more than 25 years old (for 1935, the latter is OK, but the author has to be dead too - and according to English law, for 70 years). See: http://www.jisclegal.ac.uk/publications/CopyrightAR.htm

I'm not sure if copyright "length" varies from country to country, and in which country the law has to apply when it comes to copying from a book to a web-site...

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Mats

[Jools]

- and according to English law, for 70 years)

This is wandering off topic but the site is registered under Scots Law (only hosted in the US). Therefore Scots, British (not English) and European copyright laws have a bearing. I don't want to think about the IP of various contributors, but I guess that comes under Scots Law too despite the fact that you, for example, are based in England.

In other words, we agree it is too complex, but I do agree with Silurus in that I think that if we cited the original work, we could use the drawing.

Silurus, can you provide a citation please?

Jools

[Jools]

Silurus, can you provide a citation please?

*bump*

Silurus,

Does the source document have a copyright statement and can you provide the author and title and I will add it into the cat-elog.

Jools

[Jools]

Well, it's only taken me just under 3 years, but I have now revamped the image submission facility / database structure to work with line drawings from older papers in the way I had in my head when I wrote that first reply up above.

So, this particular issue is now resolved and it's open season on older line drawings especially where they are for species not in the cat-elog.

Cheers,

Jools