Lisamadoras oncinus questions

Post by **Birger** » 09 Sep 2007, 01:28

As this is my first foray into Auchenipteridae (Mark you piqued my interest with all yours)I have a few quick questions,I now have two that are approx.10 cm total length and currently in quarantine,would they be okay in with midsize riverine syno's or would it be overly competitive for them as far as food and (more than enough)housing is concerned,I am under the understanding that they are not as tough as they look,I could do a biotope tank with them as the star inhabitants and most likely will do this,
Also I think they are still a little too small for sexing at this size am I right or wrong about this
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Thanks Birger

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 09 Sep 2007, 09:46

Hi Birger,
I don't see any problems with regard to your setting. Are you planning to keep them together with the S. flavitaeniatus?
They are tough enough, yet surprisingly fragile when it comes to being bitten, nipped, harrassed etc. The species is not good at defending itself, if you know what I mean.
Gender difference shows late in this species; you have to wait until they are about 7" before any signs show up.

Post by **Birger** » 09 Sep 2007, 16:19

Thanks for the reply Marc,
I would like to put them in a display for a while with 10 full size nigriventris,a few schoutedeni the largest in this tank being 10-12 cm,it will get the flav's when they grow a bit and right now has some(2) small angelicus that are behaving themselves but will be pulled soon to go in another tank with some larger ones.Other inhabitants are shoals of Pareutropius buffei and congo tetras.
I think they would be comfortable in this tank,most likely will hardly see them due to large caves and bogwood but they can grow out in this tank for a while.

Richard B · Post by **Richard B** » 09 Sep 2007, 20:37

Agree - there shouldn't be a problem. Schoutedeni can be quite territorial & have a go at other cats they take a dislike to but with plenty of caves & bogwood there shouldn't be an issue.

(I do think the jags will "disappear" into cover for most of the time).

I have kept an oncinus with a schoutedeni with no problems for the oncinus although the schoutedeni did harrass all other synos in the tank, including a larger angelicus.