Synodontis lacustricolus - a myth or a fact? *pics*

[worton[pl]]

Hey,

with newest import this fish arrived.

http://www.suephoto.pl/index.php/galeria/index/5/340

It is WC specimen .

Waiting for yours opinions .

Regards.

[Marc van Arc]

Hello,
The name you supply (lacustricolus) is a synonym for S. tanganaicae (Wright & Page, revision 2006; spelling mistake??) or S. tanganyicae (as spelled in FB; this spelling seems correct).
Hope this helps a little.

[Dave Rinaldo]

Here is the entry in the Cat-eLog.

Synodontis tanganaicae

[Mod edit: Update species name... --Mats]

[worton[pl]]

Hey,

thanks guys! I know it is now a synonym to tanganaicae. What do you think this fish is? For me it looks nothing like tanganaicae or dhonti. It looks like lacustricolus which I saw few times in older books.

To be honest this one looks like no other syno from a lake I saw before - that's why I deliberately used a lacustricolus name .

Regards.

[emartin]

I'm no expert, but the pictures you provided look exactly like the ones in the profile that was linked to in an earlier post, particularly this picture:


[Mod edit: fix spelling of image - speceis name has changed --Mats]

[worton[pl]]

Hey,

Sorry mate - I don't know where are you looking but this both fish look totally different. Except colouration - looks at the shape of the snout, mouth, barbles, fins, humeral process - everything is different except this both are Synodontis

[Birger]

Hi Worton
It has more of a petricola/lucipinnis kind of look/shape to it, maybe one of the people with the new Seegers book can shed some light on this...if it is even in there. What is the size, it does not look too big in the picture?

The name you supply (lacustricolus) is a synonym for S. tanganaicae (Wright & Page, revision 2006; spelling mistake??) or S. tanganyicae (as spelled in FB; this spelling seems correct).

Marc...It is spelled tanganaicae in the Ferraris checklist of Catfish

Birger

[worton[pl]]

Hey,

yup it has some of petricola features . Have you seen Erwin Schraml's article printed in DATZ or in Today's fishworld in 2004. There is a picture with very similar fish .

Could you please write something more about Mr. Seegers book?

Regards.

[emartin]

Hey,

Sorry mate - I don't know where are you looking but this both fish look totally different. Except colouration - looks at the shape of the snout, mouth, barbles, fins, humeral process - everything is different except this both are Synodontis

Yeah, well...I'm a c1chlid guy give me a break!

[worton[pl]]

Cheers Marduk

[sidguppy]

your fish is a light colored specimen of the real Synodontis polli.

[worton[pl]]

Hey,



thanks Sid . That was one of the option .

Could you take a look on others synos here:

http://www.suephoto.com/index.php/galeria/index/5/344

this all comes in with the same import . There is even a photo with yellow fellow and green one sitting together .

Oh and this one also was very hard to identify for me:

http://www.suephoto.com/index.php/galeria/index/5/337

Yellow syno is 11-12 cm TL (sorry Birger didn't notice you asked about length).

Regards.

[Birger]

Could you please write something more about Mr. Seegers book?

http://planetcatfish.com/forum/viewtopi ... =8&t=23138

Birger

[sidguppy]

good one, I've completely forgotten about ilebrevis

but supposedly you cannot see wich is wich unless you cut them open; ilebrevis and polli would look the same

I doubt that myself; there's a HUGE variety in "synodontis polli" and that's just counting real polli, not Synodontis sp "polli white".

the big problem is: Tanganyikan Syno's are a headsplittin' mess.
there are sooooooo many varieties that all get lumped together in mixed shipments, cause the exporters separate all the cichlids from each village, but dump the cats in 1 tank. it sure looks that way

another thing is: there's abviously a lot of variety within a single species without it being 3 species or more. animals aren't carboncopies.

same goes for petricola and allies, the lacustricolis/tanganicae/dhonti/etc clade.

good thing we only have 1 granulosus!

[Birger]

good thing we only have 1 granulosus!

That we know of so far...who knows what else lurks in the deep...
There are always so many surprises from this lake!!

On another note it would be interesting to see if the color changes(loses the yellow tinge) at all on the above fish with a change of water conditions and diet as it will with some other Rift Lake fish that get pulled from the lakes.

Birger

[worton[pl]]

Hey,

after my new 240l tank is mature all pollis from this import will swim in Lublin so we will see . But you are probably right Birger and it will loose this cool, yellow colour :/.

Why this chocolate syno I call ilebrevis is because on others photos of polli after feeding stomach is bigger in "closer to the tail" part ;) but you are right Sid - nothing for sure .

Anyway thanks for help and I hope you enjoy this photos .

Regards.

[andywoolloo]

I just wanted to say I really emjoyed looking at all those catfish pics! Very cool catfish with awesome colours!

[Richard B]

by worton[pl] on Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:47 am
Hey,
after my new 240l tank is mature all pollis from this import will swim in Lublin

-hmmm - feeling jealous!

by sidguppy on Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:39 pm
the big problem is: Tanganyikan Syno's are a headsplittin' mess.

- you're so right Sid

by worton[pl] on Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:23 am
Could you please write something more about Mr. Seegers book?

- i'm ploughing through it to submit a review - it's very good but not perfect - tang synos is an area i hoped would be better - watch this space!

[Dinyar]

My first thought, like sid's, was also S. polli, but I think it is also plausible that it could be some thing else. Is S. lacustricolus a valid species? Wright and Page say no, but time will tell. Erwin Schraml has some photos, if I recall correctly, of the type specimen of S. lacustricolus. The fish looked HUGE.

[worton[pl]]

Hey,

yup Dinyar I still have some doupts about this fish being light colored polli, especially after looking at this pictures http://www.suephoto.com/index.php/galeria/index/5/344
which show for sure a light colored polli

As you said time will show if this yellow fish will grow large and loose spots .

Regards.