Sydontis Eruptus 44 gal

[MagicWings]

I currently have a Sydontis Eruptus, that's what it was identified as for me a few months back. This is her (I think it's a her because of how rounded the belly is)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ ... 0_1360.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/ ... 0_1355.jpg

Anyways, my brother recently upgraded to a 44 gal tank and I wanted to possibly put my catfish in there, since it's in a way too small 10 gallon currently. The other fish in the 44 gal right now is a needle nose fish (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/fla ... 03bdd6.jpg), a leaf fish (http://filepit.freewebs.com/fruitbat/cacutirostre13.jpg), a couple inch pleco, and a blueish silver catfish, which I think might be a shark catfish (http://www.tropical-fish-pictures.com/f ... atfish.jpg) and an Angelfish. The shark catfish (if thats what it is) is about 6 inches long, I'd say... beautiful fish.

I wanted to know if its possible to mix these species? My Sydontis is currently living with 4 guppies, a male betta, and a little pleco of my own, shes really a peaceful thing... so Im worried if shell get along in a "semi aggressive" tank. Ive read that they ARE semi aggressive fish, but Ive never lost a guppy to her, even when they were very young guppies.

There are multiple hiding places in the 44 gallon and Id really like to put her in there. If not, shes at least getting upgraded to a 20 gallon. Any advice?

[worton[pl]]

Hey,

your fish is

Synodontis eupterus

.
It is in far too small tank. 44 gal will be ok however every catfish with word "shark" in name grows too big for 44 gal so you should get rid of it.

Regards.

[Richard B]

every catfish with word "shark" in name grows too big for 44 gal

Regards.

This fish does indeed get far too big for a 44gal (that said, common names can be misleading sometimes & i'd disgree with all cats with the word "shark" in the common name being too big - e.g sand shark cat being used for a

Glyptothorax trilineatus

or on occasion a http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/ge ... d=292#1302

[worton[pl]]

Hey,

well I do not know english common names so you are right Richard .

[MagicWings]

Hey,

your fish is

Synodontis eupterus

.
It is in far too small tank. 44 gal will be ok however every catfish with word "shark" in name grows too big for 44 gal so you should get rid of it.

Regards.

Thank you for your reply, though this doesn't really touch upon what I wanted to know (though I will make sure my brother realizes his catfish is going to get even larger). The spelling in the title was my mistake, these names are hard to spell! Haha.

The other catfish (the shark) is not mine and thus it is not my decision to "get rid of it". There's nothing wrong with upgrading your tank as your fish grow, I think. I also mentioned that I'm well aware my Synodontis is in too small of a tank... When I purchased her she was labeled as a fish that would get 3 inches long... she started off in a little 1.5-2 gallon thing!

My original question, though... will the Synodontis and the "shark" get along? I'd like to get the Syno. in a bigger tank ASAP.

Please and thank you

[Richard B]

I've seen eupterus & shark cats kept together without problem on more than one occasion. They do have an element of competition as they are both gluttonous bottom feeders but the shark cat is much more diurnal.

[Richard B]

Hey,

well I do not know english common names so you are right Richard .

Common names are often not something everyone is familiar with & i've known lfs just make stuff up on the spot 'cos they felt lke it when they didn't know any better

[MagicWings]

Please answer ASAP!

I moved the Synodontis eupterus to the 44 gallon with the shark catfish, leaf fish, needle nose, pleco, and angelfish... but the Syno. is being extremely mean! I've never seen it be territorial before and it never, ever bothered my betta, guppies, or pleco... but she is chasing around the shark catfish... will this behavior settle down once the Syno has gotten used to the tank and established itself or will they end up hurting each other either physically or stressing the other to death?

I can tell the Syno. is better off in the 44 gallon, shes swimming upside down and actually getting to swim around... but if she can't leave the other fish alone, my brother won't let me keep her in there...

UPDATE: Well, I dunno, they're sorta calmed down... they swam past eachother and the Syno. didn't chase... but I'm still not sure.

[Birger]

My first thought was to ask what you have for caves in that tank, or some kind of structure...it sounds like it may be trying to possess the only structure in the tank, you may have to add more....or if it has just been recently transferred it may settle down after gaining its place in the hierarchy but continue to keep a close eye and it is possible it could get more aggressive after dark. Also with the other catfish being the most similar to it, it makes sense it would consider it as competition.

[MagicWings]

My first thought was to ask what you have for caves in that tank, or some kind of structure...it sounds like it may be trying to possess the only structure in the tank, you may have to add more....or if it has just been recently transferred it may settle down after gaining its place in the hierarchy but continue to keep a close eye and it is possible it could get more aggressive after dark. Also with the other catfish being the most similar to it, it makes sense it would consider it as competition.

There is an artificial tree stump, and then two sets of rocks piled up to create two connected caves.

[andywoolloo]

the syno needs his own place to call his, a piece of pvc pipe, big enough so he doesn't get stuck or a driftwood tangle to hide under. Sounds like you have 3 poss caves in the 44 and you have 6 total fish,

angel, pl*co, needlenose, leaf fish, and a blue silver fish , plus the syno 6 . so 6 fish and 3 poss caves, that could be a prob. The syno and the pl*co will def want a cave of their own, poss the other catfish you have and unknown on the angel or the leaf fishor the needlenose.

for my synos i have to have more caves then there are fish then they are fine.

[MagicWings]

the syno needs his own place to call his, a piece of pvc pipe, big enough so he doesn't get stuck or a driftwood tangle to hide under. Sounds like you have 3 poss caves in the 44 and you have 6 total fish,

angel, pl*co, needlenose, leaf fish, and a blue silver fish , plus the syno 6 . so 6 fish and 3 poss caves, that could be a prob. The syno and the pl*co will def want a cave of their own, poss the other catfish you have and unknown on the angel or the leaf fishor the needlenose.

for my synos i have to have more caves then there are fish then they are fine.

The pleco, shark catfish, and leaf fish have all been peacefully sharing the tree stump together for quite a while. The needlefish spends all his time at the top of the tank, and the angelfish doesn't hide.