Spatuloricaria sp Xingu

[sojapat]

I know that the site takes tons of looking after .Not nit picking.
I got these fishes in ..
Xingu is wrong name?
Spatuloricaria sp 'Caqueta'? Coming from Colombia via Peru? Im not sure about this .

[Norman]

Hi,

There are 2 (undescribed) species of Spatuloricaria showing this high contrasting coloration.
One species come from Rio Xingú, Brazil, the other species is coming from Peru (but unfortunately don't know the direct location).
Spatuloricaria caquetae is quit differnt.

Norman

[sojapat]

Ok no problem , The pics in the catalogue have my fish under the Xingu 'Banner'.
They were from Peru.
They are high contrast and the exporter from Peru called them Caqueta.
He is not the only one exporting them under this name .
See here
http://www.neotropicalfauna.com/images/loricaqu.jpg


I am not saying you are wrong Norman but I never imported them from Brazil and my photos are in the catalogue under the wrong name.
I would suggest that only Ingos picture is the correct Xingu fish .

[Norman]

Hi,

Okay, know I understand.

When do you import this great species from Peru, do you know where they are caught?

best regards
Norman

[sojapat]

Hi Norman , I will try to find out for you .
Here are a couple of photos from today .

And

These are amazing loricarids .
No one in Brazil likes to work with them as they are more sensetive than the normal L codes .
A real shame as we collected them in all the main L code hotspots .
I sold Joolz a couple of Colombian ones 3 weeks ago they were in a by-catch of Lamonticthys stibaros ..
I cant find the post about them .

[sojapat]

OOPS .. Hope somebody can help put that right

[Dave Rinaldo]

[Norman]

Hi,

I will try to find out for you .

Thanks a lot in advance!

No one in Brazil likes to work with them as they are more sensetive than the normal L codes .
A real shame as we collected them in all the main L code hotspots .

I know about the sensitivity of the whole genus Spatuloricaria.

I sold Joolz a couple of Colombian ones 3 weeks ago they were in a by-catch of Lamonticthys stibaros ..

So we can hope for offsprings?! Thats really good! Now Jools has to do (t)his Job.

best regards
Norman

[sojapat]

A popular comercial fish , it seems to keep being pushed away on the id ?
We know now it is not Brazilian?

[racoll]

If referring to Wels Atlas I, they look very similar to Spatuloricaria sp. "Colombia".

If referring to PC, they look closest to what are called Spatuloricaria cf_caquetae.

I think these might be the same species.

[sojapat]

I think it should be labelled with Locality ?
Spatuloricaria sp Nanay as this is where they are from .
I dont think that they are the same as the Clombian ones from pics they are generally smaller ,
and more sand coloured with a faint collar behind the head .
Shane may be able to clarify this .
Although things like Loricaria simillima are found all over SA ??

[Shane]

They do like generally similar, but are different to me.
-Shane

[MatsP]

Bump...

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Mats

[Jools]

At the time (years ago) you told me Neil they were from the Xingu, they were in a tank with a (peppered?) cory with odd popeye and you had a large Mbu puffer swimming around in a floor tank. I probably picked it up wrong as I do find it a little hard to hear sometimes in Pier, sorry. Maybe you were talking about something else and I thought the fish was from the Xingu. Anyway, just wanted to say why I'd had them labelled as such.

Sorry I have not been tracking this one as much as I should. Suggest we change them to Spat. sp `Rio Nanay` and move pics accordingly. That would mean only the picture taken by Ingo in the Xingu would remain?

Jools

[Jools]

Mats,

Bump...

Suggest the following actions:

A) Rename S. cf _caquatae to S. sp`rio_nanay`
B) Move all pics from S. sp.`rio_xingu` to S. sp. `rio_nanay` EXCEPT those actually taken in the Xingu and those from Bruce Bruether which are of Xingu imports.
C) Update both species entries to say they are very similar species and, in fact, I can't see any difference in them visually, so locality is vitally important?
D) Add the two pics above from Neil using one as the principal picture for the Rio Nanay species?

Can you do that?

Cheers,

Jools

[Jools]

* bump *!

Jools

[MatsP]

Yes, will have a go in a minute.

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Mats

[MatsP]

The last image is "do not move", but I have moved it. You may need to fix that up in article 382.

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Mats

[MatsP]

All done, but not moving to resolved until the article issue has been resolved.

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Mats

[Jools]

Article has been fixed.

Jools