Helogenes marmoratus

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Helogenes marmoratus

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Hi!!

A few pictures of a nice little cat not so commonly seen

Helogenes marmoratus

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Thats a lovely looking fish Yann!!!! What sorta conditions does it require???
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Very nice Yann. That is one hard fish to photo.
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Gorgeous. :-BD

Only ever seen them in the flesh a couple of times, but these are definitely on my "to keep" list!

Anyone ever bred these?
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Hi!!

Thanks guys!!

I keep mine in normal tap water around neutral pH mid soft water and 25-26°c of T°
No breeding has been seen nor happened here, and I am not aware of any breeding else either

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I got two of these wonderfull little creatures yesterday.

The picture is bad, but shows they're in the vicinity of the surface all the time
(it's only one here with the reflection of himself ;) )

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Shane wrote:That is one hard fish to photo.
X2.

esp. capturing the swimming shot.
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A compliment from Ben, the master fish photographer, must mean a lot :)
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I know the photo is crappy. You don't need to rub it in, though
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This is somewhat like the catfishversion of the hatchetfish. Their whole bodyshape is adapted for a surfacebound life.
That's something way different for me after keeping Corydoras and the like for years and years

Just found out they really like to have fruitflies for dinner.
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They live for the hours of dusk and dawn! I remember mine went nuts for live daphnia that had been half dried so it didn't sink. It's a catfish for the bare-bottomed tank too - it will only live in floating vegetation if that is available.

A catfish fans catfish.

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Great looking specie.

Yan/Jools, what can you tell us about it's behaviour/ social interacting.
Are they territorial to there own kind ?
If not is it preferable to keep them in small groups ?

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I kept 5 or 6 in a 24"x15"x12" with a similar number of and a pair of Apistogramma - no problems.

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Hi!!

I kept mine in a rather big tanks with lots of floating plants in different zone of the tanks...

I never witness any schooling, they are much individuals, they would also rest in their own little place, either in floating plants or in the diftwood also!!

Never seen any agression or anything like that either

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Those are cool lil Catfish.
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kruseman wrote:I know the photo is crappy. You don't need to rub it in, though
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Both Shane and Ben were, most clearly, referring to the OP photos, and so did I.
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Yann wrote:Never seen any agression or anything like that either
Different experience here. In a large tank things went okay, but in a tank of 100x30x40 (cms) 6 of them were apparently too many, despite the fact they did well at the LFS (OutsideInside) and in the bag. They were not very fond of eachother, which resulted in a count down. The last specimen did well until the whole tank got wiped out.
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Viktor Jarikov wrote:Both Shane and Ben were, most clearly, referring to the OP photos, and so did I.
Perhaps Kruseman got confused because it took you (except for Shane) 18 months to do so?
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My comment is a tack-on to Ben's compliment, who quotes Shane, who in turn compliments the OP before Kruseman's photo was ever posted. There is nothing to be confused about. Not that I don't appreciate your "peace-keeping", if I may, effort, Marc :) And I do like Kruseman's shot as well, as opposed to his self-assessment.
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Marc van Arc wrote:
Different experience here. In a large tank things went okay, but in a tank of 100x30x40 (cms) 6 of them were apparently too many, despite the fact they did well at the LFS (OutsideInside) and in the bag. They were not very fond of eachother, which resulted in a count down. The last specimen did well until the whole tank got wiped out.
My group of 6 was kept in a 450 liter tank, probably the reason I didn't see any agression!!
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