Spinipterus acsi

[Marc van Arc]

I've added genus & species, yet I'm unable to get the rename/move option to work.
I also just noticed I was able to make the Auchenipterinae sp. Guyana entry disappear, so I'm afraid things have become a bit Lionel.
Can anyone pls clean up?? Thanks very much.

[MatsP]

I'm afraid we need Jools help here, as he'll need to "poke directly in the database", and I can't do that [and I'd think real hard about it before I'd accept an invitation to actually do that - you can REALLY muck things up if you start doing that].

I will fix the rename feature so that it checks if the species exists before it tries to rename anything.

For future reference, a rename requires that the new species doesn't already exist. The genus, clearly, must exist first.

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Mats

[Jools]

Fixed up now I think.

OK, I understand what has happened here. It is very logical that Marc would first add a new genus and species then renamed the Guyanan species. However, the correct procedure is just to create a genus and then rename. Otherwise we have two species entries with the same name in the new genus.

@Mats, I note also that the genus folder in the jpg dir for

Spinipterus

was not created. That might be worth looking at too?

I will fix the rename feature so that it checks if the species exists before it tries to rename anything.

That would be great, it would also be a useful function for someone trying to add a new species to check the species isn't already there. Easy to do with something like

Corydoras

for example.

Cheers,

Jools

[Jools]

Interesting to note as an aside this is the second species named for the ACSI but the other specific epithet was acsiorum. I think the data sheet also needs an update!

Cheers,

Jools

[MatsP]

I agree, it's not easy to know the way things are meant to work here, so I think it's more mine and your fault that Marc could do this - not Marc's fault for not knowing how things are meant to work. This is the skill in writing userfriendly software - it should work the way you expect it to, and if it doesn't, it should tell you what you've done wrong (and preferrably how to fix it).

I already have a function that can be plugged into both the "add new" and "rename" - I'm just making sure it works for EVERYTHING, and not just most things...

Likewise, create new genus should check that the genus isn't already there, etc.

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Mats

[Marc van Arc]

I agree, it's not easy to know the way things are meant to work here, so I think it's more mine and your fault that Marc could do this - not Marc's fault for not knowing how things are meant to work.

The "funny" thing is that I would normally indeed not do things like this, but while at Jools' we talked about the admin page, so I thought: why not give it a try?
Sorry again for messing things up; I'd better stick to the synonyms -)

@ Jools: I don't quite get your meaning wrt to this: "Interesting to note as an aside this is the second species named for the ACSI but the other specific epithet was acsiorum. I think the data sheet also needs an update!"

[Jools]

why not give it a try?
Sorry again for messing things up; I'd better stick to the synonyms -)

@ Jools: I don't quite get your meaning wrt to this: "Interesting to note as an aside this is the second species named for the ACSI but the other specific epithet was acsiorum. I think the data sheet also needs an update!"

It really bugs me when anyone tries to improve the site by adding data and it doesn't work due to my inadequate design. Which is what happened here. I hope it doesn't put you off doing more such things and please don't worry about it - I do little fixes here and there just like this one all the time.

Onto my second paragraph (which should have been three). I didn't mean to link the two sentences. Simply, it's interesting to note the etymology. Period. The data sheet needs (and has got) an update. Period.

Sorry again!

Jools

[The.Dark.One]

I know I'm probably stating the obvious and getting ahead of myself but the type locality, Identification, and distribution and notes section need updating too?

[MatsP]

I agree, it's not easy to know the way things are meant to work here, so I think it's more mine and your fault that Marc could do this - not Marc's fault for not knowing how things are meant to work.

The "funny" thing is that I would normally indeed not do things like this, but while at Jools' we talked about the admin page, so I thought: why not give it a try?
Sorry again for messing things up; I'd better stick to the synonyms -)

This is what "Real user testing" is for - finding the problems that the developers haven't spotted because they test things in accordance to how it's MEANT to be used. The number of times I've sent Jools an e-mail saying "Sorry, I've messed things up .... " is certainly more than a dozen - sometimes it's just simple things like adding some data the wrong way, or whatever, but sometimes it's because Jools needs to fix something that got broken by incorrect use of the pages that we have for this sort of things.

When we discover these flaws, we usually try to make it more robust, so that it doesn't break in THAT way again. And with more people using the admin pages, there is more need for robustness, because there are more people who can get things wrong.

Recently, we discovered that it's possible to add a genus without a family! That messes up the database too...

As Jools, I hope this doesn't put you off trying to do things on the admin pages.

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Mats

[MatsP]

I submitted a fix for "rename to existing species (and create new directories when renaming a species)" yesterday evening. I'm not sure if Jools has had time to review the fix and upload it yet.

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Mats

[Jools]

I submitted a fix for "rename to existing species (and create new directories when renaming a species)" yesterday evening. I'm not sure if Jools has had time to review the fix and upload it yet.

Now online.

Jools

[Marc van Arc]

The data sheet needs (and has got) an update.

I did indeed update it, but apparently it didn't make it to the correct data sheet or got lost somewhere between Auchenipterinae sp Guyana and Spinipterus acsi.

Now I also understand Steve's remark about an update. Will do asap; having my hands full atm.

@ Jools: did you notice the new pictures? Sent to your webmaster inbox.

[The.Dark.One]

The distribution is still showing as Guyana?

[MatsP]

If I had the paper, I would fix it up... ;)

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Mats

[MatsP]

I have updated S. acsi to say "upper amazon", so I think this is "done".

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Mats