Rinelirocaria Parva wild breed

[Marie-Alix]

Hi everyone,

I got 4 wild specimens of rineloricaria parva(1 male and 3 females) in a 125L tank and they often breed. At this moment a couple is laying.

I decided to share my experience with you because I hear that this reproduction is considered like "difficult".

So, they are in a 125L (with too many others fishes I know it..) with:
- 5 L201 (breeding at this time too)
- 5 L46 (no breeding yet)
- some red cherry
- 15 pseudomugil gertrudae

The tank:

The parameters are:
pH: 6
GH: 8
KH: 4
NO2: 0
NO3: 20
T: 26°

One female

Another female

Dad with the fry:



New born babies:


One day babies:


Two days babies:


Older baby:


Sorry for some bad quality pics, hope you enjoy the post =)

[Richard B]

Hemiloricaria Parva are fairly commonly bred & not difficult at all as long as people get a group or pair of the same species. The difficulty generally is people getting one, then getting another & them being same sex or having an inappropriate set up.

My only comment on your tank is that you are keeping 2 species of Hypancistrus together so there is a possibility of interbreeding and therefore hybridisation, which should be discouraged.

[Marie-Alix]

wow thanks you for such a nice comment dude.. I just can't believe it...

I know about the hybridation, but you know, everyone haven't a job and his own house, I'm 20, I live with my parents, they hate my fishes ans i have just my little bedroom for my tanks.. I do as i can to make my passion alive but people like you, who comment so badly believing all know about the topic disgust me .. you may not agree with me, but there are ways to say things.

I was so happy to share the breeding, parameters and everything but now, I'm just disgusted in this forum. If the only people who comment on are to be unpleasant and nasty, I'm not ready to return to this forum.

Thank you man, really thank you

[Dave Rinaldo]

I'm POSITIVE Richard B was not trying be rude!

Rineloricaria parva is a synonym of

Hemiloricaria parva

(click link)

The link leads to an info page for this fish. Under Husbandry it states...

Husbandry Information
Breeding .... Relatively commonly bred, this species lays green eggs on vertical surfaces including aquarium glass.

Congratulations on your spawns!!!

[Narwhal72]

I don't think anyone was being rude. Just stating that you could have problems with hybridization with your current setup which is something that any responsible breeder should avoid.


In regards to your Hemiloricaria, What are your feeding the fry? I have spawned them in the past as well but had a really tough time finding the right food for the fry. They are not nearly as active feeders as other loricariids and just seem to sit still all day. I could not find the right food and did not have any luck raising the fry. Was curious as to what your plan was.

Andy

[Richard B]

Sincere apologies - i certainly didn't mean to be rude or disrespectful at all.

The point about breeding was in response to the information you heard that they were difficult.

The observation about hybridisation was just that, an observation. There have been many accounts of hypancistrus hybridising which is a possibility that some people do not realise.

[mummymonkey]

I'm not sure you have H. parva. They are known for laying eggs in the open rather than in a cave or tunnel. Also I don't see the characterictic interorbital gap on your fish.

[Marie-Alix]

It's ok, i'm sorry too, I let myself be carried away in my " "

I say the breed was "difficult" because I read everywhere on the websites "non reproteed breeding", I'm sorry I make hasty conclusions.

What could it be if they aren't H. Parva? I'll put some others pics to help you.

For the babies feeding, I'm agree it's really hard, I've lost many fry trying to found the right food for them. My best success was to put the babies with lot of catappa leaves, spaigne and sera viformo pellets for food. At this time the oldest babies were like 2-3 weeks but they didn't survive. Each fry live a little longer, I'll find the right combination and make it rock!

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Thanks for all your answers

[Narwhal72]

Thanks. It looks like you are having the same problems I did. I used freshly hatched brine shrimp and sliced cucumber. I got most to about 30 days and then they started dying off.

I have heard that placing them in a smaller container (like a small food storage container) with an airstone and some ramshorn snails for clean up and feeding them trout chow works well.

I have yet to try this method.

Andy

[Marie-Alix]

Yeah this is exactly this problem, I have 35 babies in a small net, all were really good then I decided to put them in a 20L to give them more space and in 5 days only 2 were still alive. They died one week later, this is really strange, maybe a smaller container is better to feed them, I don't know. This is by trying that we will eventually find the right combination to keep them alive

[pleco_breeder]

They're fairly easy once you figure them out, but are rather labor intensive. Small container and wiping down the sides and bottom as well as siphoning twice a day. They're not really as picky about food as it seems, but refuse to eat if there is any kind of biofilm.

I've tried all the tricks with shrimp and snails to clean the tank, and it's still not as successful as the intensive maintenance listed above. Cherry shrimp did seem to help, but only when there were a lot of them.

Larry

[Marie-Alix]

Thanks you Larry, I'll try your method next time!

[TwoTankAmin]

Marie-Alix- I had, as identified in this thread http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... =5&t=30467, R parva. They spawned a few times for me. However, I never got fry as the eggs were always eaten. I gave the 3/5 survivors to a friend a couple of years ago and she has had them spawn a number of times. I currently have three juvies which she gave back to me last summer. She says the adults are still spawning regularly.

If you want I can ask her if it is OK to give you her contact information so you can trade some emails to pick her brains. if you are interested, shoot me a PM.

[boyneburn]

As Mummymonkey says they usually breed in the open.I have had them spawn on the bottom glass & the side glass.I never had a problem with feeding fry.I no longer have any but they were very prolific when I had them.My breeding group came from Mummymonkey.