asian redtails

wayne the pain · Post by **wayne the pain** » 16 Mar 2004, 11:44

hi can any one clear this up for me,H nemurus,H wykkiodes(not bad off top of my head)know the latter is the red tailed sp,but the fish sold as M nemerus for years is which one of these?

Post by **Silurus** » 16 Mar 2004, 11:48

Asian redtails are , as is the fish usually sold as H. nemurus.
The real is sort of a drab gray/brown overall (no red tail) and is slightly more deeper bodied than an ART.

wayne the pain · Post by **wayne the pain** » 16 Mar 2004, 12:15

thanks for that

Does H wykioides have a red tail when young ie under 10cm?and do they have white maxillary barbels?

Post by **Silurus** » 16 Mar 2004, 12:19

The red tail in H. wyckioides is often not evident, especially in juveniles. Even older fish kept in aquaria don't have much of a red to their tails (wild caught ARTs have brilliant red tails, though). The easiest way to spot a young ART is by their gray (never brown) bodies and, as you mentioned, white maxillary barbels.

Converting · Post by **Converting** » 16 Mar 2004, 17:39

How large of a tank do you need for a solitary specimen? I have heard they rarely get over 15 inches in an aquarium. Is that true?

Chrysichthys · Post by **Chrysichthys** » 17 Mar 2004, 14:44

I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't count on it given their appetite and growth rate.

They make great macho pets, quickly establishing a sado-masochistic relationship with their owner during the process of hand-taming.

Ron · Post by **Ron** » 17 Mar 2004, 19:06

Converting wrote: I have heard they rarely get over 15 inches in an aquarium. Is that true?

False -> there is a 23" one listed for sale currently in the classifieds on this site because it out grew the 180 gallon someone had him in. Unless you have a pond for this fish, you are better off looking at keeping more manageable species.

Post by **Silurus** » 17 Mar 2004, 19:10

there is a 23" one listed for sale currently in the classifieds on this site

Isn't that for a South American redtail?

Ron · Post by **Ron** » 17 Mar 2004, 19:16

Silurus wrote:
there is a 23" one listed for sale currently in the classifieds on this site
Isn't that for a South American redtail?

My bad, that was an "Amazon redtail".

wayne the pain · Post by **wayne the pain** » 17 Mar 2004, 19:42

so is 18" about max they get? know they are bigger in wild.my local shop just got a shippment in of these, also Heterobagrus bocourti ( forgive spelling if incorrect) so anyone at convention who wants them.

Chrysichthys · Post by **Chrysichthys** » 18 Mar 2004, 10:52

Have you looked at the new pics of wild-caught in the Cat-eLog?

I think I've seen an estimate of 26" for tank-raised specimens.