Loricaria and Spatuloricaria Id.

Oscar · Post by **Oscar** » 03 Jun 2005, 08:52

I have many doubts with these two loricarids and cannot find a positive id.

A probably Spatuloricaria sp., captured at Las marias river, Venezuela.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/p ... ure050.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/p ... ure042.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/p ... ure046.jpg

A Loricaria sp., captured at river Pauji, Venezuela.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/p ... ure069.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/p ... ure068.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/p ... ure067.jpg

thanks in advance

Post by **Shane** » 03 Jun 2005, 16:19

Oscar,
I will have to check my resources when I get home tonight. Can you give the States and/or drainages they were caught in? Sorry, but there are many rivers with the same name and I want to be sure I have the correct one.

Voy a revisar mis libros al regresar a casa esta noche para ver que informacion tenga. Si puedes, seria util tener los nombres de los estados y/o las cuencas porque hay muchos rios con los mismos nombres.

-Shane

Rene MG · Post by **Rene MG** » 03 Jun 2005, 16:25

Hola.
Que bien es leer posts en espaÃ±ol.

It's soo good to read the posts in spoken spanish

Regards

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 03 Jun 2005, 17:41

Hi!

The Loricaria is without doubt:

regarding the other cat, I don't have much idea!!

cheers
Yann

JoseAngelBarro · Post by **JoseAngelBarro** » 03 Jun 2005, 17:51

Shane; Lo capturo un amigo mio, ahora lo llamo y le pregunto pero estoy casi seguro que es en los Llanos Centrales (Carabobo, Cojedes).

Shane They are captured a friend, i now call he and answer, but i think they are Llanos Centrales (States Carabobo and Cojedes)

Hi

Post by **Shane** » 03 Jun 2005, 18:00

The second sp. is, as Yann said, Loricaria sp. "Colombia." The first, I believe, is the pretty gold-colored spp that Jools and I have caught in the Rio Tinaco. This fish is also in Ingo's Welse Atlas, but I can not remember what name he attached to it in his book. We are using Loricaria sp. 1 here at PC.

El segundo es, como dijo Yann, Loricaria sp. "Colombia." El primero, creo, es la tabla bonita de color oro que he capturado con Jools en el Rio Tinaco. Esta tabla tambien esta en el libro de Ingo "Welse Atlas" pero no recuerdo que nombre el se usa. Estamos usando el nombre Loricaria sp. 1 aqui en el sitio.

Possible first sp.

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/lo ... /896_f.php

Second sp.

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/lo ... /816_f.php
-Shane

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 04 Jun 2005, 17:20

Hi!

The Spatuloricaria could be S. sp "Colombia" in the wels atla.... at least that is the closest I found!
Cheers
Yann

Oscar · Post by **Oscar** » 05 Jun 2005, 00:00

Thanks Shane to write in spanish too.

The second fish, at first look very similar to Loricaria sp. "Colombia", but thinking in the site of capture, I've any doubts about others sp.

IÂ´ve talk with the person that capture the fishes ( Jose Angel's friend ) and comment my theyÂ´re captured in Portuguesa drainage, in the Portuguesa state, and in other occasions he capture another fishes like these but with approximately 50 cm.

Regards.
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Gracias Shane por escribir en castellano tambien.

El segundo sp, al principio me parecio similar a la Loricaria sp. "Colombia", pero pensando en el lugar de captura, tuve algunas dudas con otros posibles sp.

Hable con la persona que los capturo (el amigo de Jose Angel) y me comento que los capturo en un afluente del rio Portuguesa, en el estado de Portuguesa, y en otras ocasiones ha capturado otros ejemplares del mismo sp. con aproximadamente 50 cm.

Saludos.