Anyone any good at IDing pike cichlids?

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Anyone any good at IDing pike cichlids?

Post by racoll »

Got this little chap a few weeks ago.

i bought him as Crenicichla wallacii

but....


the cichlid atlas (Romer) states that C.wallacii has 11 bars along the flank. mine has 9.

C.notopthalmus lacks the spot on the caudal peduncle. mine has this spot. As well as the enlarged anterior dorsal membranes.

this leaves C.regani.....

which is what coelacanth thinks from this thread....

http://www.planetcatfish.com/forum/view ... hp?t=11579

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Post by sidguppy »

definitely no regani.

C regani has enlarged eyes; the male has elongated dorsalspines in the posterior part, the female a very big black&white eyespot in the dorsal.
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sidguppy wrote:the male has elongated dorsal spines in the posterior part
That's notophthalmus, surely?
I still think regani is closest, although something about the mouth doesn't quite look right.
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both species have elongated spines in the dorsal (males);
but regani-females have a black and white eyespot; notophthalmus-females a red and white eyespot.
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Post by racoll »

if you have Dr Uwe Romers cichlid atlas, check out page 1041 and there is an excellent shot of a male without any enlarged dorsal spines or membranes.
No regani male I've ever seen or had possessed elongated anterior dorsal membranes, indeed I believed it to be one of the easier ways to distinguish between the two species. I've actually seen considerable variation in colour and position of the dorsal ocellus in female regani even within a single brood, and I think the late Frank Warzel produced a photo montage somewhere demostrating the varying dorsal patterns that can occur with female regani across their distribution.
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Post by coelacanth »

Not sure what's happened here, I clicked "quote" to reply to Racoll's last message but instead I appear to have annexed it :shock:
If you want to delete this and repost your original text I'll have another go..... :?
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Post by racoll »

god knows what happened there, my post has gone, and now seems to contain your comments.

what it said was was that i agree with you coelocanth, in that no picture of any C.regani i have ever seen has enlarged anterior dorsal membranes.

never kept any though.... until now.
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