Phyllonemus spawning again

Post by **corybreed** » 22 Sep 2005, 22:26

My Phyllonemus have spawned again. Thanks to Sid. The day after I fed them some Guppies the went into the cave. Hopefully this time they will not eat the eggs/fry.

Mark

worton[pl] · Post by **worton[pl]** » 23 Sep 2005, 08:59

Hiya,

Nicely done Mark! So before you fed guppies they didn't even think about breeding? My are still pretty young (smallest one is about 5cm, biggest about 7cm) but I guess two of biggest fish are mating or something like that :). They swim in circles almost all night, near the back glass where big stone is standing almost reaching the surface :). The rest of my p. typus is just eating and then hide :) so do lophiobagrus.

Anyway gratz for you and your fish :).

Regards.

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 23 Sep 2005, 11:38

Congrats, corybreed!

don't forget to keep on feeding, although small amounts.
the parents exchange eggs and fry several times a day at will, to allow the non-breeding animal to feed; if you "starve" them, they'll swallow the eggs.

sometimes the batch is so large, even both parents breed.
still, once you feed one will take ALL the eggs or fry and will look like its head's about to explode!

once the first has fed it'll take over the entire batch, and the second takes its' feeding turn.

after a few weeks, when the tiny youngsters arrive it'll be 1 week or so when those start to feed: time to hatch live artemia-larvae and get out the cyclops and micro-worms; all of wich can be eaten by the tiny fry.

adding duckweed is a pre; when parents release the young, often the fry goes straight to the surface and hides in there.....easy to catch them. they will need a few daily feeds with artemia/worms/cyclops etc in a tank of their own.
it'll take weeks before baby phyllonemus can be fed with crumbled flake or something; they'd rather starve to death before accepting flake-food at first.

longstocking · Post by **longstocking** » 12 Oct 2005, 13:24

Just wondering if you've had any luck with them holding and if you've managed to rasie some fry up?

Post by **Barbie** » 16 Oct 2005, 18:12

*nudges sarah out of the way* Yeah, I'd definitely like to hear more about the success of this spawn!:lol:

Barbie

Post by **corybreed** » 17 Oct 2005, 01:52

I just went down to check the cave. It looks like they are still holding. I added some floating plants to the tank. Sid told me that the fry swim up and hide in the plants. I hope they don't eat the fry this time.

Mark

Post by **Barbie** » 17 Oct 2005, 20:08

If you've found yourself in need of floating plants, just yell. I've recently been given some stuff I was told was money wort, but it does'nt look like it. It definitely does great on the top of my fry tanks though! Shipping USPS should still be possible without too much of it lost.

Barbie

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 17 Oct 2005, 22:22

DON'T forget to feed the parent; mysis, mosquitolarvae and the like.

not too much!!! just a bit.

you probably won't see them eating it, so to play it safe it can be a nightly feed.

They WILL eat it, and then the risk of them eating their young is greatly diminished.

remember, this particular fish can and does switch eggs or fry at will, to be able to feed. parents take turns to enable the other to feed.

Do NOT disturb the parents by sticking hands in the tank or lift up caves; this is THE quickest way of screwing up a potential good breeding effort.
you can check on them with a mini-mag or something.

Patience is a virtue here

Post by **corybreed** » 17 Oct 2005, 23:32

Sid thank you for the valuable information.

Mark