African Suckermouth Cat - Chiloglanis Polypogon

bunjiweb · Post by **bunjiweb** » 25 Apr 2005, 19:52

Think this is Chiloglanis Cameronensis but really not sure, will try to get better pics when it gets acustomed to the tank and makes an appearence.

Please ID If you disagree!

Ben

Post by **Silurus** » 25 Apr 2005, 20:04

Based on color alone (which is far from accurate), I'd say your fish looks more like .

The key to an accurate identification is providing a good closeup picture of the mouth.

bunjiweb · Post by **bunjiweb** » 25 Apr 2005, 20:29

Yes you are correct, i did not see this species in my book but after looking at the profile for the Polypogon I agree that it is deffinately the right species.

Ben

eupterus · Post by **eupterus** » 01 May 2005, 19:41

Definately Chiloglannis. lovely fish, can i ask where you got them and how much. I had some about 15 years ago and having lost the pair ( 2 rather than actual pair) to a broken heater i have been unable to replace.
Mine were the C. lukajae from tanganyika but any Chiloglannis are few and far between

bunjiweb · Post by **bunjiweb** » 02 May 2005, 18:08

We had 1 at work... Aquatic Habitat - Brockworth, Gloucestershire.

Not had any in for ages, this guy has been in the shop a good few months, would be surprised if we got any more in soon but if i see any on the imports list i will reply to this post with details.

Ben

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 02 May 2005, 21:42

bunjiweb wrote:Yes you are correct, i did not see this species in my book but after looking at the profile for the Polypogon I agree that it is deffinately the right species.

Ben

I wouldn't be so sure, there are a lot of Chiloglanis out there... Anyway, worry about keeping it alive first and then we can figure out / confirm what it is.

Jools

bunjiweb · Post by **bunjiweb** » 10 May 2005, 11:33

Another pic of him. He's in my 15G tank now, was getting lost in my 60G tank.

Ben

Post by **Silurus** » 10 May 2005, 12:09

The body looks a little too robust for C. polypogon.

bunjiweb · Post by **bunjiweb** » 10 May 2005, 12:44

what do you mean?

Ben

Post by **Silurus** » 10 May 2005, 12:50

Body is a little too deep. Need a picture of the mouth to be sure of ID.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 26 May 2005, 12:11

Any chance of creeping up on the little guy and taking a close-up shot of him as he sucks on the glass? I'll lump him in C. polypogon in the catelog for now.

Cheers,

Jools

worton[pl] · Post by **worton[pl]** » 05 Aug 2005, 10:38

Hiya,

eupterus you wrote about Chiloglanis which lives in Tanganyika Lake. I'm little confused since I thought this genus lives only in fast flowing waters :/. Is there really a Chiloglanis sp. in Tanganyika?

Regards.

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 05 Aug 2005, 11:21

no.

there IS a Chiloglanis living in Lake Malawi, though.
Chiloglanis neumanni.
It's not an endemic species; occurs in many rivers and a few other smaller lakes in that region in Africa.

they don't get imported, because they ship badly and catching the little devils from between car-sized boulders is a drag, however.
riverine individuals probably could get imported, but those will be quite unsuitable for a Rifttank: too warm, not enough oxygen.

believe me, I tried to get my hands on those, and I DO know some good Malawi/Tang importers on a personal base.
but it turned out next to impossible.

worton[pl] · Post by **worton[pl]** » 05 Aug 2005, 11:38

Thanks Sid :)).
Well here I wouldn't be able to buy this fish anyway I asked because I get confused :). How this fish can survive in a lake? It lives in parts where rivers enter lake? Or it's just evolution?

Maybe you know if all species of Atopochilus genus got suckermouth?

Regards.

Post by **Silurus** » 06 Aug 2005, 04:22

There are Chiloglanis known from the Lake Tanganyika drainages, but they do not occur in the lake proper, only in the rivers draining in and out of the lake.

All Atopochilus have suckermouths.

worton[pl] · Post by **worton[pl]** » 06 Aug 2005, 12:07

Sorry for asking so much about this Chiloglanis but I got a chance to get speciments which live close to Tanganyika. Especially southern part of a lake (Mpulungu region but generally Zambia). Thats why I'm so interested. Maybe you know Silurus in which drainages exactly it can be found?

Thanks for Atopochilus info :)).

Regards.

Post by **Silurus** » 06 Aug 2005, 12:10

There is an undescribed species of Chiloglanis from the Mpulungu region.