Hypancistrus Id

Oscar · Post by **Oscar** » 04 May 2005, 09:41

Buy two fishes last week, this and others all sold as Panaque sp. LDA68 (Colombia), but all fish are Hypancistrus for dentex.

Two fish I buy looks like L129.

Other fishes, to me, looks like other Hypancistrus, probably L316, L270.

One type.

Two type.

three type.

Post by **Silurus** » 04 May 2005, 10:17

The first one (what you call "one type") is L270.

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 04 May 2005, 10:29

Hi!
The fish labelled as two type is L129 the 3rd fish pictured with counting the teeth pic is also L129.

The fish labelled as three type could also be L129, but I found them to have quite broad bands...still they also seems to be quite variable, depending of the catching locality

I would agree with HH about the one type, looks like L270

fish in picture nÂ°2 (without counting the pic of the teeth) is either L270 or L316

Cheers
Yann

Oscar · Post by **Oscar** » 04 May 2005, 13:41

Thanks

fish in picture nÂ°2 (without counting the pic of the teeth) is either L270 or L316

Yes, excuse me, this picture it's in wrong order,

and looks like a L316.

foreverfish · Post by **foreverfish** » 05 May 2005, 06:12

hi,they are very nice looking. what do you think if label them "the one type" as the Hypancistrus sp. L340.

from the observation: they are small in size, less than 8cm and they are imported from colombia

Post by **Janne** » 05 May 2005, 15:24

The eyes are to big for both L316 and L270, I think maybe you got a mix of L199 and L129 with some L340 among them

Anyway...all these species are from Colombia and probably Rio meta.

Janne

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 05 May 2005, 16:11

I fist thought of L340 when I saw the orange coloration but I see the pattern is a bit off for such number. the pattern is more similar to L129.
Are L340 an abberant coloration of some L129 coming from the Rio Tomo.

Regarding the other fish thought to be L270 or L316, I found the body shape and pattern more likely to belong to those 2 numbers rather than L199. So far all the L199 I have seen look really particular and could not been misidentified with L270 or L316...

Was the order a direct shipment from Colombia or did it went through an importator before coming to you??

Cheers
Yann

Post by **Janne** » 05 May 2005, 18:14

L199 and L316 at small sizes they can look really similar in the pattern and the color but L316 and L270 have smaller eyes...L316 much smaller.
I am sure that all species above comes from Colombia and yes I think L340 are a varity of L129. I am still waiting to see a species exactly matching the first pic of the LDA19.

Janne

Oscar · Post by **Oscar** » 09 May 2005, 00:25

All these fish are imported from Colombia, but I can`t specify the river or locality.

I think maybe you got a mix of L199 and L129 with some L340 among them

which are they the differences among L129 and L199 in juvenile fishes?

L340, which picture or fish is?

plecplonkfizz · Post by **plecplonkfizz** » 09 May 2005, 02:13

Hi
I think one type is L270.
Two type is is L340.
Three type is L129.

L129 Juvenile http://www.aquacorner.de/aquacorner/l129-j1.jpg
L199 Juvenile http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/lo ... /222_4.php

Steve

Post by **Janne** » 09 May 2005, 20:26

I have not breeding L129 yet so I dont know whats the different between them as youngsters compared to L199, at just to look at them it seams only to be the pattern that differ these two apart.

L129 Juvenile http://www.aquacorner.de/aquacorner/l129-j1.jpg
L199 Juvenile http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/lo ... /222_4.php

L129 link shows a fry around 20 days old or so...in that size almost all Hypancistrus species look the same.
L199 link shows a youngster maybe 6 months old or just above that...if they had been of equal age they would been much more similar.

L340 is the same as LDA19 but now when there have been imported quite many of L340 that we can see from the Aqualog and Datz pictures should be this species...we can also see the simularitys to L129.
The first pic showed and are still showed as LDA19 since it first occur in the trade.

Janne

Steve · Post by **Steve** » 10 May 2005, 00:26

Hallo !

What do you see on these pictures ?

http://www.aquacorner.de/aquacorner/l129var.html

Greetings from South-West-Germany

Post by **Janne** » 10 May 2005, 20:55

I am seeing the same as these but with a different pattern, some of yours even looks like a Peckoltia but I think it's the angle of the pic that fools me.

Male L199.

Female L199.

Fry 12 days L199.

Youngster 4 month L199.

Janne

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