Bumblebee Jelly Cat Information needed

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 16 Sep 2003, 23:46

I have a Batrochoglanis raninus, I am wondering how quickly he will develop to full size. he is currently in a very small tank (like 2 gallon) and is less than an inch and a half long right now. What is the best food to feed him currently?

I will be moving him to a larger 10 gallon tank until the 30 galon is ready for him and he gets a bit larger, about 3 inches. I need to know how long it will take this cat to mature and reach 3 inches so I cn start preparation as soon as possible.

Also, are there any specific caring needs I need to know for this guy?

Thanks for any help

Post by **Silurus** » 17 Sep 2003, 00:45

It all depends on how much you feed the fish, and your water changes. I kept mine in a relatively cool tank (it's unheated), feed it every other day, and change the water once in six months maybe (I'm an adherent of the old water school).
Got it as a little 'un about an inch, and a year later, it's still only about 4".
They're not fussy eaters and are pretty easy to look after. Not fussy eaters, so I'd go with crushed Tetra Bits, brine shrimp and bloodworms.

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 17 Sep 2003, 00:51

thanks for the info. What kind of filtration were you using in the tank you had the cat in? right no its under gravel in the 2 gallon, none in the 10 gallon, ned to get one once I can afford to get it all set up (payday, hehe).

would this work well for a simple 10 gallon tank?

http://www.petsmart.com/fish/shopping/f ... F761.shtml

Post by **Silurus** » 17 Sep 2003, 00:56

That should work, although it might be good to add another filtration system (like I did). Right now, I've got a Fluval internal filter in the tank, plus a sponge filter.

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 17 Sep 2003, 03:54

so something like that one with this one as well?

http://www.petsmart.com/fish/shopping/f ... 6567.shtml

Im not sure I can fit all that in this tank, hehe, the top of it is kinda narrow. Its shaped octagonallly like a large bowl. I really gotta get my digicam working.

will that one I posted before be sufficient without the addition of that sponge one? the only thing that will be in there will be that cat and maybe a couple phantom cats until the jelly cat gets too big.

Post by **Silurus** » 17 Sep 2003, 04:03

No need for two internal filters. Just the Duetto and a sponge filter (the type powered by an air pump) will do.
Should fit, I think. If not, I guess the internal filter should do it, since your bio-load is low.

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 17 Sep 2003, 06:37

ok cool, one last question and I think I am ready, lol

Is it ok to feed him Beta Food Pellets right now or should I pick up some other food?

Post by **Silurus** » 17 Sep 2003, 09:08

Betta food pellets are fine. Easier than Tetra Bits, in fact, since you don't have to crush them.

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 17 Sep 2003, 23:05

ok, ive thought of two more questions, hehe. The cat is currently in a tank with 4 African Dwarf Frogs (theyre really small), is it safe to put this cat with those frogs? He is currently the same size as the frogs.

And, what temperature range is recomended for this cat's water?

Thanks

Post by **Silurus** » 17 Sep 2003, 23:20

Should be OK, although I would separate them at the earliest opportunity.
Temp for the water should be between 22-27Â°C (too lazy to figure out what it is in Â°F).

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 17 Sep 2003, 23:52

Thanks for all your help Silurus, I must say you are a wealth of knowledge and an asset to this forum

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 19 Sep 2003, 21:59

Ok, new question. How will the Bumblebee Jelly Catfish (Batrochoglanis raninus) get along with a Striped Raphael (Platydoras costatus)? and can those be kept in the same tank (any environmental stuff to consider?)

thanks

Post by **Silurus** » 19 Sep 2003, 22:14

Provide enough hiding spaces and they should be fine together. If not, the fight for hiding spaces may take its toll on one party.

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 19 Sep 2003, 22:19

Silurus wrote:Provide enough hiding spaces and they should be fine together. If not, the fight for hiding spaces may take its toll on one party.

Ive got a cave (lizard isle, hehe) for the bumblebee today, and was going to get some rocks (with holes) and a piece of PVC in there before I get the Raphael. theyre both under 2 inches right now and will bein a 10 gallon tank. im currently awaiting to find out if I will be getting a 100 gallon tank soon (free! from my boss! too cool). they will be moved to a alrger tank when they get around 2.5 to 3 inches and it will only be those 2 in the tank until I get a bigger tank

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 19 Sep 2003, 23:13

Im going to be filling the 10 gallon tank today, I dont have anything to purify tap water with, a friend of mine has been using Spring Water bought from the local grocery store. Any reason this would be a bad idea?

I will be getting a test kit and PH balancers soon, but not sure how quickly I can get it

Post by **Dinyar** » 19 Sep 2003, 23:39

As for "pH balancers", save your money. Buy a dechlorinator (e.g., Amquel) instead and just keep up with the water changes.

Dinyar

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 19 Sep 2003, 23:51

so dechlorinated water will lower the PH if it is too high? guess that makes sense

what about using Spring Water? will that hurt the fish and will it have the correct PH for them? Im getting it from Kroger in 1 Gallon jugs...

Post by **Silurus** » 20 Sep 2003, 00:13

Spring water will have dissolved minerals and might be too hard for your fish. I'm not too sure what is sold as "spring water" sometimes. In some cases, it could be distilled water, which you should never use as well.
If your air is clear of pollutants, rain water is best.

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 20 Sep 2003, 00:28

hmmm, I need something I can use this weekend. What would you recomend for a tank that is being setup for the first time?

guess im going to go buy a PH Tester, what other tests would I need?

Post by **Silurus** » 20 Sep 2003, 00:34

If the water in your region is not too hard, you can use it after dechlorination, I suppose.
One other thing you might want to invest in is a nitrate test kit.

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 20 Sep 2003, 00:36

ok, hmmm, guess I need to make a run to petco after work, lol

will this work? http://www.petco.com/product_info.asp?f ... lorine&ct3

how soon after setting this up can the fish be added?

Post by **Silurus** » 20 Sep 2003, 00:45

That should do, although regular Amquel will also work.
Ideally, you should let run the tank without fish in it for it to be properly cycled before adding the fish. This usually takes about a week or two.
Search the forums for tank cycling, as this is a topic that comes up frequently (don't really want to start another cycling thread here).

Post by **Dinyar** » 20 Sep 2003, 03:38

yashmack wrote:so dechlorinated water will lower the PH if it is too high? guess that makes sense

No, it won't, but if your water has a high pH, those are the breaks you're best of learning to live with. Doing lots of water changes -- like 40-50% every week -- will keep your water clean, and your fish will appreciate that more than chemicals which force down your pH. Besides the fact that it's almost impossible to maintain a stable pH using these chemicals, many of the commercial products like pH Down and so on add phosphates (-->algae) and other nasty things to your water.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the rain to do a water change. Most of us don't live in a tropical rain forest where it rains every day.

Dinyar

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 21 Sep 2003, 03:47

I went and bought a bunch of Drinking Water from Kroger, tested it for PH, Ammonia, and Nitrites, all came back as very acceptable. The PH tested close to 6.0 and the nitrites were nil and no ammonia either. I currently have the bumblebee in the tank, heis doing fine, now that he is not with the frogs anymore he ventures out of his cave more and appears to be eating better now that I got the sinking wafers for catfish. I will be testing the water for ammonia and nitrates every couple days to make sure he is ok in there and will do water changes as necessary. as soon as the tank is established for a few weeks I will be getting myself a striped Raphael and more places for them to hide.

here is a pic of the tank.

It will be moving from the speaker in the next couple days, as soon as I get the stand from my parents. right now, the speakers are kept off.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 23 Sep 2003, 13:14

Dinyar wrote:I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the rain to do a water change. Most of us don't live in a tropical rain forest where it rains every day.

Not a problem in Scotland but I would make the point if you are going to collect rainwater, use it on a test fish tank for at least a few months. Air pollution can go up or down over time. Also, if you half fill that new tank then you'll have a much greater surface area and you'll find that allows you more fish or at least happier ones.

Jools

MackIntheBox · Post by **MackIntheBox** » 23 Sep 2003, 16:37

Im only planning on 2 or at the maximum 3 fish in that tank, all small. That tank is not suitable for more than 2 or 3 fish, It will probably be a place to raise smaller fish until they are ready to enter whatever larger tank I finally get

Sampson · Post by **Sampson** » 11 May 2004, 03:43

Any clue as to where I may be able to pick one of these guys up online?

Bought one from my LFS in 95' and it was one of the greatest fish I've ever owned. Never grew too big but ate like a Lion.

Gave up the hobby in 97' and am back at it again. Probably for good this time and I was wondering if anyone had any leads on where I could get one of these.

Could you please pm me with a link or something?

Thank you,

Sampson

Bumblebee Jelly Cat Information needed

Bumblebee Jelly Cat Information needed

Anywhere I can pick one of these up online?